M+ as "race against time" is bad concept - Ideas of Non-Timed M+ mode

If thats the case then why do we wipe on eregos yet have much fun?

If you just must do perform well for your gguild, then you’re an hardcore player. Today we pulled terror a couple of times. We didnt kill him, but we arnt effectively going to bench people who are performing weak which is what YOU are trying to prevent.

no im not hardcore ur right.

I think a Simple level, of respect for one anothers time should be the minimum, thats not being Elitist. thats Just a Minimal demand. If i was telling u to play X Class cause urs is Lower on the totem pole. expecting u to gear 3 characters to swap out. and then asking u to attend alt runs on other chars to gear other players by Armour stacking.

i’d understand you. but a basic ask of Respect to one anothers time, is just being Humane.

because Progression is Fun.

Til its a brick wall and peoples fun starts to dye down due to the repeated problems.

So if i’m not elitist im not humane? :star_struck:

And yet you’re playing a video and this always leads to not willing to fail or be benched

No.

If u put no effort into anything and expect to be carried you arent.

theres a difference between benching someone after wipe 3, and 3000. thats what im stating here.

Why would I even be there if im not putting in effort? What do you take me for?

It is you who clearly demand an elitist approach. Which is thoroughly toxic. And you seem to think this is required to clear content. Which is ridiculous.

then u arent a problem and im lost to exactly what ur Arguing.

Do you complain at your friends for not having enchants, gems, available BIS and all?

This was about the fundamentals of what hardcore and elitist is, and strayed quite off topic, which was probably my fault. sorry about that.

on week 1? not rly no. they are incredibly expensive right now.

Yes, and you think mythic 9 gear or whatever, will prevent you from dieing?.. lmao

The one thing you’re working to try andf prevent is not understanding the raid not more importnant for you then outgearing a raid?

Why are you affraid of being ‘’ benched’ if you supposedfly prog norm, but are overgearingg for it and saying you’'re not hardcore because you dont want to be benched when gear isnt the thing that will bench you. It is your class, your rotation and your understanding of mechanics, where as we do not simply bench for that.

We try to help others instead, during the raids we schedule.

And how do I have this supposed BIS that everyone speak of (Neck) for 5000 G?

You seem to have a casual, semi-hardcore approach. Very nice. Happy for you :smiley:

Just saw a guild named “They Shall Not Posses”

Spot on the M+ topic.

U seem to be misunderstanding or just applying what iwrite to max.

If u fail a Enrage timer 3000 times… ur teams not doing enough DPS.

if ur tank cant survive ur healers arent healing enough.

if ur tank gets 1 hit its not Able to take the dmg required.

the game has inbuilt features which determine this

Yes. And minmaxing to make this as easy as possible is not hardcore, quite the contrary.

Yes? And?

We learned mechanics, then focused on DPS on eregos?

Whats the problem? We almost got mechanics on Terrros, whats the problem? We whipe at 50% usually after seconth slice but thats not a dps problem, thats a failure of controlling mechanic and positionial play. Thats it. Nothing special, nothing hardcore, we will get it done in due time and this is because we are simply having fun. You’re just overgearing to not get banched and make the cut.

Stop blaming everything else. My guilds average ilvl is 373~ My guild consists of mainly drachtyrs whom heal and do everything.

Totally not cough

minmaxed my level so i can solo aq40. im so hardcore :rofl:

Ever heard of a proper effort=reward structure? You know. Every game where there is character progression. The devs usually place the strongest rewards at the strongest bosses and the first rat you kill after character creation shouldn’t give you a “hammer of the Gods” drop.
Yeah…that basic concept.

I am surprised you are not campaigning for LFR to give mythic level loot because “those damn mythic raiders are hoarding it for themselves”. Waaaaait. No stop. Ignore what I said!.. great I have given you another great idea… :man_facepalming:

I am not the only one who is opposing your ideas of m+ nerf…because frankly…thats what you are asking. If there is 2 options. No sane person would take the “hardest option” for the same reward.
Just take a look at LFG tool. You CAN spam LFM SM need all. You CAN manually fly there from SW. BUT WHO will waste time doing it the “hard way” if you can just press 1 button instead?

Did you have something to say? Still scared that everyone would have equal chance on the exclusive content and acting as if it’s a lootbox for all to get as if there would be no difficulty left in it where Billy, Jimmy, Lynlia and friends can just jump into +30 and rake in?

didnt blame anything, and also didnt say anything about ur guild. i said i’d abuse a Easier path to gearing. i didnt say i’d expect others to. i also said there are guilds which would make it mandatory

373 is perfectly reasonable.

If i was 340 would u still invite me?