Yeah. Thumps up for every Enchanter pressing need on the Token when you clearly just want the Gold of it.
You think you are worth it because you pushed me through the Dungeon? Nah.
In the End it takes me the same time, because I never win any Token & need to buy them with Shards.
I really had back luck & haven’t seen a single Token since 20 Runs (yes, 20 Runs) – then a full Geared Player of my Class came in - and took it away from me. Just to disenchant it.
Thanks for this.
PS: You could just change this subject by give Items via Celestial Dungeons another ID - so you can’t disenchant them… but… hey…
Name a system for new players to catch up in gear… Oh yes the celestial dungeons. And why, may I ask you, a person who clearly needs it for main spec should loose a roll to enchanters pressing Need? Isn’t enchanting a greed roll by default?
The enchanter has every right to Take whatever drops. they spent as much time in there as you have and earned the dropped loot. If you want Loot rules than make the rules with a team.
A random player owes you nothing
Pfft, with that (flawed) logic you could give Thunderfury to a priest. Or Warglaives to a hunter. They spent as much time as all warriors and rogues, so it’s all good.
Those are raid drops that can be done solo and if its current, a raid is pre made with rules. A random dungeon que is formed with people that each has their own objectives and then you have no right to tell people what they are not allowed to have unless it is a pre made dungeon where everyone knows the rules. Enchanting is a profession used to make gold and thats what is being done in the environment it can make gold. Denying that to someone you never met before and saying i claim the item so you cannot have it is not any better than the guy Rolling on loot to disenchant to make some gold
If you for some reason interpret a random matchmaking system as total anarchy, sure. Just be prepared you will face massive backlash, because I’m willing to bet the vast majority of people don’t. You’re the odd guy here, just saying.
If we end up in the same dungeon, would you be fine with me yoinking everything for no reason, because that’s my objective?
for no reason yes, But enchanters do it for a reason. and even if you do, nothing anyone can do about it.
But it would not surprise me cause its only dungeon loot. you always get Fragments as personal loot. Whatever drops in the dungeon is group loot. and all 5 players are part of that group. If you do not like someone then you easily leave and que another.
if you go solo into a random dungeon with random people than accept it that some players are not there to help you. Everyone is there for their own goals
Doesn’t matter what reasons I have, you said you don’t have the right to tell others what they are not allowed to do.
Wrong.
You surely picked a suitable name for your character. I hope we never cross paths in game.
I also want to add that it’s interesting that people who collect 593 transmog sets and are gearing 213 offspecs are always enchanters. Just goes to show that some people pick their profession out of greed, because in their mind it justifies griefing everyone they meet for profit.
i am not saying you cannot do it. only saying that without a reason i would not be fine with it but there is nothing i can do to stop you from rolling need on it.
and what do you think The other people are doing in the dungeon but to obtain whatever it is they need. not what others need.
I do not know people who just que solo into random dungeons without something they want from it and spend their time helping strangers. Everyone are doing the things to get what they want from that.
That guy is doing the dungeon to get gear, and the other is there to get gold. but the players who is there to obtain gear is there for that is his objectives.
and the ones who are there to make gold are their objectives.
Solution:
If celestial gear is such a big deal, form a premade group, dont invite classes that share tokens or bring guildies/friends.
If you still que up, knowing the risk, and not doing anything on the above. Well, happy farming.
Also; i doubt a bad geared player takes items to DE(Never happend to me and i geared 4-5 chars) - Tho i have been with quite many that either waits till all leave, and take whats left - Or they need items from someone doing 40k dps(Carried them)
The degenerate has spoken, stripped from everything that makes us humans human. It only shows me that this person hasn’t received any respect in his real life, never learned any decency in his real life.
There’s one thing you can do is to put ppl like this on your ignorelist so you don’t get randomly grouped with savages like this. Do the same with greedy enchanters.
True, then why don’t you oblige the loot rules and roll GREED for you greedy desire to sell and have profit? Why are you rolling that you NEED that piece of gear for upgrades on that slot for your main spec, if that is a lie?
And I do not belive you go into celestials only for Sha crystals, most likely you farm currency for your gear upgrades.
I need that gold. Once both need and greed get same priority i will click greed if it makes you happy. But you can buy all that items with fragments. So arent you one greedy for not spending shards ?
That your greed talking for you. Make more runs, turn JP into honor, buy PvP offhand and disenchant it.
You can do the same for your greedy desires for gold. Buy JP for stone fragments and use abovementioned method.
Nope. The shards are needed for other slots for major upgrades on my alts for challenge modes. This is the reason, if you are DPS, you get faster though a celestials heroic+ queue, because guys like me play tanks and healers there. And greedy enchanters thank their tanks and healers by stealing loot from them.
I have enchanting on my druid and priest alts and never pressed “Need” to undercut people who rolled greed on purple gear despite em wanting to just sell it to vendor. Always offering guildies to pass on purple gear greed so I can disenchant it and /roll among our group. You are not stealing from honest guys like them, but from people who need gear to progress and get into raids.
But as expected, crying on forum requesting free carry for gear by geared people isnt greed. Got that.
I do that so we are fine now ?
Good for you, if you wana pass loot go for it. Great on this game is nobody force you to do opossite.
I dont realy care about other randoms that i never see again and are terrible bad most of times. I do that dungeons for shards only.
You can avoid people like me easily by doing group queue. Becouse as long as celestials are valid for gold farming this will happen. There will be geared people using it to farm gold who are perfectly fine with sharing chance to reach their goal with others. Not like you people who want free carry and everything for themselves.
They didn’t asked for your exclusive carry help. Celestials, as easy as they are with buffs offered, dungeons are tuned for 450-ish ilvl characters. Yes they would make it in 22-30 minutes instead of 14-20 but at least they would keep the loot they earned. If you think that you carry the whole group ask 4 people who is AFK in capital to join your group, tell them to teleport out once instance is found and proceed to clear the dungeon solo with all loot at your disposal.
