Isn’t the definition of a no skill class, that you can max it out even without a 3rd party tool? But like already said, take mage then.
They are a tiny bit ahead of Lock, Shadow and Boomkin. But hugely behind Aug, Mage and Ele.
I think I already explained that a few times.
It is not for obvious reasons. When Brewmaster would be somewhat strong in PvP, you would only see 5 ww and 4 brewmaster for example. So your whole argument would collapse instantly.
It is stupid to just look onto one spec, when a class has several comparable and strong specs. Means you can compare fire/frost/arcane mage, but can’t add feral to boomkin, as they are completely different.
Out of 19 melee specs, Shadow is outperforming 13. So based on your logic shadow is doing great, literally a joke for (nearly) all melees!
mm is still hardest spec to play with arms, other has high skill ceiling for its aimed and rapid for 800k dmg and other with its instant 150k melee swings but once they master this they do well in the brackets
ye rogue dont have drs to stare or anything or cc that other classes mess its gameplay, its just press button and things die, high skill ceiling like arms and mm
might have to level another hunter along my sv to practise mm so prepared once blitz becomes ranked, atleast we have alot of time for that so were ready with our mms i remember you play one
rogues are killing people in a cheap shot that does take zero skill if the damage wasnt so crazy high i could agree rogue is usually one of the classes that requires more skill
what ever you say, i just see mm complain about rogues, but anyways mm will be fun in blitz, but we still need them to make it ranked so it has actual worth as mode…
no but i have ppl on my fl who are 10x higher than u like scadrex elswave who is #1 fuseton blizo and many more and they tell me how the game is if i ask them soooo i cba what a lil veggie like u think
ur on ignore now cause i cba about u wannabe harvey specter
There is no Meele dominance it all happens maybe in your brain but not on the ladder check awc check guild clash 150 posts from casters that are delusional xD the only 2 meeles kinda beeing good rn are unholy dk and ww if i see that correct we dont talk about sp beeing a tank, mage beeing a cc and dps monster aug beeing in his own category or what
Definition of a no skill class is that you can win games in spite of making numerous mistakes because your spec has forgiving design. You just tried to equal a class that’s played by legitimate players to a spec that’s played flawlessly by a bot. Not the same. But hey, talking to you about definitions isn’t really worthwhile when you think ‘no skill cleave’, ‘annoying as ’, ‘stun for everyone’, ‘DHX (for Jungle cleave)’ are all names of compositions.
All 3 Lock specs* and ahead of Shadow and ahead of Boomkin. There’s 5 casters immediately that it is stronger than.
But ahead of Devastation. 6 casters it’s ahead of. This is where your ‘class’ argument falls to pieces. WW destroys Devastation but Evoker DPS as a whole outperforms Windwalker, so by your logic WW is good into Evokers? Haha, good one.
Ahead of Frost and Arcane. 8 casters it’s ahead of.
Okay, so why aren’t you combining Feral and Balance? Aren’t they both DPS Druids?
Shadow Priest is good into Demonology, but it gets countered by Affliction and Destruction. Does being good into Demonology mean that my spec is good into the Warlock class as a whole? Of course not, this is why you look at specs individually for more accurate analysis. Shadow Priest is good into Frost DK but struggles into UH DK. Does being good into Frost mean that Shadow is good into DK’s?
No it isn’t. If you want to compare spec performance, you compare specs. You don’t compare classes since classes have multiple DPS specs, different designs, and different performance levels. Why do you think data resources separate class filters from spec filters? For that very reason.
Yes, because Shadow is good into most melees. The ones it is bad into are Feral, WW, Arms, UH, Outlaw and Sub. Oh would you look at that, all specialisations which outperformed Shadow on the ladder.
Well done, you finally understand.
WW outperformed all casters except for 3, 1 of them which you said were ‘all bots’ so should be getting end of season bans soon.
Do you need to also pay people to tell you how to use data resources or do you think you can get your brain cells to work together to open Google and do 30 seconds of research?
One is a range caster, the other a melee. So for obvious reasons!
Yes, it is. Therefore the example with WW and BM.
Imagine for a second Fury would be exactly as good as Arms and instead of 11 Arms you would see 6 Fury and 5 Arms. Would you argue then, that Arms actually isn’t as strong anymore even though nothing of the spec would have changed?!
Of course you wouldn’t. So your spec counting makes no sense. The only reason you are doing that is because it pseudo supports your biased opinion!
So because you can’t beat 100% of the melees but just around 70%, you are calling them overtuned noob specs? But you don’t cry about the most dominant melee specs that wildly outperform ww and arms?
3 out of 6 classes. But lets take your stupid counting for a second. 8 out of 11 caster is not much better than 13 out of 19 melees. So is shadow an overtuned noob spec into most melees?
Anyways, everything was said from point of view, so enjoy yourself.
Is thrash melee? Is swipe melee? Is brutal slash melee? Is cyclone melee? Is adaptive swarm melee? Is skull bash melee? Are entangling roots melee? Is mass entanglement melee?
So you would say WW is good into the Evoker class even though it completely outperforms (and destroys) Devastation but is outperformed by Augmentation?
Biased is ironic from the terrible WW player that refutes factual statistics that evidences their spec is fantastic.
WW outperforms every single Warlock spec combined (3 of them), 2 out of 3 Mage specs, Boomkin, Shadow Priest, Devastation Evoker. 8 casters that WW outperforms. Why is it so hard for you to accept that you play a fantastic spec? Is it because you couldn’t get high rating on it?
Where did I say that? Here you go again, lying about what things people have said just to suit your narrative. It is a factual truth that WW outperformed all but 3 caster specialisations, 1 of them you called ‘all bots’.
With at least 1 of those classes having 3 specialisations. WW outperformed 3 Warlock specs combined.
Your class counting is moronic. By your logic, SP is good into Death Knights because it is good into Frost but bad into UH. It is good into Rogues because it’s good into Assa but bad into Outlaw and Sub. WW is bad into Evokers although it destroys Devastation but is outperformed by Aug.
If you didn’t already know this, you play against specialisations of classes in arena, not just a class. Therefore, you might be bad into the specialisation Augmentation of the Evoker class, but you destroy Devastation of the Evoker class. Are you then going to say you’re bad into Evokers? Nope. Just like SP wouldn’t say it’s bad into Warlocks, it would say it’s bad into Affliction and Destruction.
I don’t remember saying that Shadow isn’t good into most melees, in fact I actually remember saying it IS good into most melees. I’ve also said on other threads that Shadow could do with defensive nerfs because it is very difficult to kill. I think you’re just salty that I said your spec is exceptional, which it factually is.
Kinda cringe how you’re trying to use my logic and applying it to my own spec as some sort of tactic against me when I literally agree with it when used against my spec. Although disagreeing with it would be moronic anyway since it’s a factual, statistical truth. SP is very good into many melees, just not the best melees, just like WW is fantastic against many casters, just not the 3 best casters, although 1 of those you claim are ‘all bots’. Difference is, SP is worse into more melees than WW is worse into caster specs. I think that statistical fact has you pressed. Remember, you don’t play against classes in arena, you play against specialisations of that class which have different designs and different mechanics. You don’t say your spec is bad because it’s bad into a single spec of X class. You say your spec is bad into Y specialisation of X class.
Difficult concept to grasp for you, I know, but you’ll get there in the end.
Though, I know you don’t have much appreciation for facts anyway, considering you think ‘annoying as ’, ‘stun for everyone’, ‘no skill cleave’ and ‘DHX (for Jungle)’
are all names of compositions and consider using cheating botting software as an equal to legitimate players playing a low skill spec
’, ‘stun for everyone’, ‘DHX (for Jungle cleave)’ are all names of compositions.
