So, Alliance has only 1 guild named Exorsus, [Экзорсус] a Russian guild in Hall of Fame list. 03/01/2021
And lets take a look at horde side ;
16 and this number will probably increase soon.
Isn’t it time to Blizzard employees to take their heads out of the… sand already. This faction is Dead PvE wise.
It is time for some changes already. Luckily they brought PvP vendors back and nerfed PvE gear a little so it doesn’t impact PvP like it used to during BfA trash or else Alliance would truly die, I would personally quit the game instead of swapping factions and probably alot more people. Look at this 2 stupid lists, shame on you, lol.
PvP community also started to pick Orc instead of Human because Orc racial is better.
PvE and PvP racial advantages are both on Horde side. Sometimes I really think they are intentionally trying to kill this faction… All they gotta do is changing a few numbers related to racial abilities to prevent this, lol.
I find it disturbing, it is nowhere near balanced and this game supposed to be balanced for both sides opportunity-wise.
Alliance literally has noone left to raid, a pitiful and extremely wrong situation created by Blizzard itself that needs to be fixed. People pay the same price to buy the game and subscribe so they have to create equal opportunities for players of both sides instead of this imbalance incarnate situation.
It is clear and obvious, it is time for action.
I’ll repeat, it is 16 Horde / 1 Alliance guild, it is not
it is one faction completely laid back compared to the other one.
Turkish mythic progress guilds on Silvermoon moved to Turkish Nether aka Twisting Nether during BfA trash, remaining ones are Heroic or casual guilds.
And imagine the other nations now, just 2 that I know from Turkish ones, how many more from other ones? Let me tell you, too many.
Alliance is completely dead for raiding and needs help via racial fixes or a proper new race let us underline this part.
They killed Dark Iron racial pre Nathria raid to create this imbalance this time, this is directly Blizzard’s fault, let me tell you what would’ve happen if they didn’t kill dwarf racial for Nathria, Horde would still have more guilds on the list but Alliance would have more than 1 and this thread wouldn’t exist.
The lack of raiding does not mean the faction is dead by the way, it simply means that its less competitive.
I used to be Horde and changed to Alliance particularly for the more laid back and chill atmosphere, and I’m sure I’m not the only one, the faction is not dying its just less visible because it’s not as competitive, if you check the numbers they are still perfectly fine (they are lower than horde but that’s no surprise)
What do you mean by perfectly fine. We have 1 guild on Mythic Hall of Fame, outnumbered in PvE and PvP everywhere, except Goldshire, that is our only safe haven.
Numbers are nowhere near perfectly fine.
Blizzard killed API of Realmpop to prevent us from seeing exact numbers of players on both sides.
Can you tell me how do you check numbers, which magic you use?
I did say I was not talking about mythic raiding though, as I said Alliance is a lot less competitive and I dont see that as wrong but thats only my own opinion
Anyway for the sources for numbers all we have is 2 sources which are
https://www.wowrealmpopulation.com/
and of course https://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/eu
I’m pretty sure they were a horde guild also and just swapped to alliance because of the dwarf racial. And when blizzard nerfed it they just didn’t swap back.
About 30000 players changed from Silvermoon to other servers, those include Ravencrest and Outland mainly , the population for both of those went up by about 30000, that is not including other servers that were available for FCM, so all in all I think the alliance population is stable
from what I can see its just overall a loss of players on bigger servers due to the performance issues and server issues, people moved to different realms so the numbers went down as people spread out over a few different realms.
It turns out, that only guild is the one that moved, only to get horde biased right away, rekt.
They probably moved to a little smaller horde server to get rid of ques and lag.
I don’t think so, guilds keep swapping, PvP players keep swapping for Orc racial, some people in my friendlist turning to Gray which means playing Horde. Hall of Fame list of Alliance is empty, there are alot more PvP and PvE players on Horde side, player count of Horde is much higher than Alliance overall, so… we have a real problem here that needs to be taken care of.
Silvermoon has had only a few days performance issues during Shadowlands launch, that can’t be a reason. One of them is my friend from Silvermoon, he changed to Horde then went to Ravencrest instead of Silvermoon, he couldn’t do on Horde side…
That wouldn’t help anything, the game has gone far too long with a massive shift in population to the Horde. Even if you change the racials to be stronger for Alliance almost nobody would transfer because there’s just more recruitment opportunities on Horde. People are also less likely to change because of all the alts they have on Horde side as well.
The only thing you’ll do is make it a little bit easier for the Alliance raids, doesn’t mean they’re all of a sudden gonna recruit 10x more and find better players so they can push top 20 world (cause that is what you’re arguing).
Arguing that there aren’t enough Alliance guild in the top 17 guilds in the world is a bad argument because there’s only so many people who either have time or the skill to push that world rank
ok. then by all means. Share your recommendations.
And before saying something similar to another one of those stupid posts about “Buff RACIALS” or “BALANCE RACIALS”, when i say recommendation, I mean something that can ACTUALLY FIX the issue.
Because in all honesty, All i can possibly see happening is one of two things.
1- Cross faction PVE.
2- making alliance so ridiculously overpowered and better than horde that it would justify people swapping back.
better racials will never fix the faction imbalance at this point anyway because the vast majority aren’t switching over to horde due to racials, they’re switching because they notice oh damn theres 3x more players to play with over on horde and so more and more just keep switching over.
i was in the same hole and that’s why i officially switched all my chars from alliance main of 7 years to horde for shadowlands. turns out when LFG has 2-3x more players in it at any given point and racials are about the same, it’s an easy choice.
Almost all of them moved to Stormscale tbh as it already was a very high pop
I cant disagree about all this but there is no solution to bring horde players back at least in my opinion
but a lot of people seem to have changed from Silvermoon to those servers at least according to the numbers, or players came back on those other realms, I cant tell