Alleria cheated on Turalyon.
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I didnât even pay much attention to any of it. I just wanted my unlock and facerolled on everything.
Yeah people have been asking for high elves. Not blue eyed blood elves or plain skinned void elves.
Blizzard have just given people the illusion of what they want and theyâve all fallen for it hook line and sinker.
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IâM WHEEZING RIGHT NOW 
I really donât see the all fuss about High Elves. If there are going to be any in the game in playable form it will be in the Blood Elves due to the blue eyes that were pretty much the only physical difference.
You can clearly see that even though having normal skin those Void Elves still look differently. The idea of considering them as High Elves is pure delusion upon which die hard Alliance roleplayers terribly need to complete their Fellowship of the Ring because Purple skin of a Night Elf wasnât Legolas enough.
More than anything Blood Elf heritage armor questline has shown what a filth High Elves that turned away from Quelâthalas are. And especially strong meaning has the quote of Lady Liadrin who said that Anasterianâs Last Stand was also the âLast act of the High Elves.â
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^ Husbando tier lol.
As defined by internet speak:
Begging: Other people asking for things the person in question doesnât want
Requesting: Asking for things the person in question or his confederates want.
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This. So much this.
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Oh, sorry, I wasnât aware that underwear counted as a physical trait?
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I understand that, you can play a blood elf or darkspears troll, and you can RP amani or high elves. Ok with that, its fun. But dont let RP HE on horde : we already have a full troll customisation plan with amani/faraki and maybe drakari/dark trolls, we already have green eyes on our elves⊠so we dont need this blue option for horde ! If i want RP a HE i will roll a ally from a void elf and everything will be cool. Btw you have more people on horde side, so let all HE lovers joint the alliance !
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Locus-Walker.
Well, I guess itâs not up to you to decide whether other people should be happy with this or not.
I for one like the Void Elves. I donât care about the High Elves, I wouldnât mind if they were playable, so Iâm not opposed to them. I just donât care personally one way or the other.
And I like this for two reasons.
- More customization options for Void Elves, which is always a plus.
- It plugs a plothole regarding the creation of new Void Elves. It was only a fluke that made them blue in the first place. The interrupted ritual of Nether-Prince Durzaan. But now these ânormal skinnedâ Void Elves will be the 2nd generation. Those who joined after that event and werenât forcibly changed.
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I wonât deny that this is something that I have wanted for a long time. Iâm okay with not having Void Elf Paladins because it just wonât make sense. I think this was the closest alliance players could come to playable âHigh Elvesâ. Thereâs one slight issue for me, maybe it is the picture, it isnât quite clear but even with the brightest shade of blue there is a glowing effect. The silver covenant High Elves in Dalaran and Vereesa Windrunner (their leader) have blue eyes but no glow. They have bright blue pupils but a white Sclera. Is the picture intending there to be a glow or is it just the quality of the image?
No please no. Iâll do and enjoy both Horde and Alliance personnally. Let people chose.
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I am not downplaying anything. Nowhere does it say that draining life produces fel, nowhere does it say that draining life creates fel⊠NOWHERE does it say that draining life is a fel spell, other than in your head.
What it DOES say⊠is that you FUEL fel by using lifeforce, by drawing lifeforce from a living being.
To cast a fel spell, you need to draw upon lifeforce. But you do not produce fel simply by drawing lifeforce, it does not say that. There is a dinstinction here.
I already covered this in my previous post. Even if we for whatever reason pretend that one of the classic warlock spells, involving a fel green beam siphoning something of life isnât fel, the spell itself is healing/empowering the caster, the fuel is the drawn life of the living target.
And besides⊠as Brigante already stated, and as has been confirmed in the Cdev. The green eyes is a result of the crystals in Quelâthalas, not from the act of siphoning mana from living beings.
Neither the CDev Statement or the Warcraft Encyclopedia mentions the crystals as you can easily check for yourself either by scrolling up or by following the link posted. What it answers to is why the green eyes are as widespread and affect even priests/rangers and others who didnât practice it, it doesnât claim a single exclusive source of corruption of all blood elves, and even less that it was ambient corruption from the crystals alone, since again, they are never even mentioned by name. After all someone would have to be using that fel for that to happen. Warlocks werenât ambiently corrupted, the magisters who used fel to repair the city werenât ambiently corrupted and those who relied on draining the mana out of living things sustained by mana werenât ambiently corrupted. Priests were, rangers were, those who just drained mana from uncorrupted objects were, since they were in proximity of the above, among them the Burning Crystals.
It also doesnât say that every blood elf in Outland would have their eyes turn green from exposure, given that the Allerian Stronghold elves were there for 20 years since the Alliance expedition and they all have blue eyes.
So as you can see. They only did draw upon arcane energies from living beings for the longest time, they never had a sunction of fel. But the arcane soon was not enough and they turned to fel eventually. And again, it is important there is a distinction here between the Silvermoon Blood Elves and Kaelâthasâ Outland Blood Elves.
The distinction is one of degree, not of method. Draining a mana wyrm to death is different in scale from draining a person to death and in turn different from draining from a demon. But they are fundamentally the same sort of spell, parasitizing on a living thing to help yourself, and hence why it was opposed by the proto-high elves even when they had no issue draining magic from objects. If I genuinely have to explain to you how magically draining a living being to death and converting it into energy for yourself, as passed down from a demon whoâs class usually canât cast arcane at all to a bunch of the best mages of his era who despite that couldnât otherwise do it, whoâs every use is associated with demons or warlocks in-game is fel, then weâre really wasting our time and wonât be getting anywhere.
Even then, draining directly from demons is something even Kaelâthasâ forces do fairly little up until the very tail end of TBC. Their drug of choice are the bloodcrystals which are just extremely concentrated arcane magic, which make his elves high and volatile, but doesnât mutate them, since itâs just drawing mana from an object. When they do go all out on the fel by 2.4 by draining demons is when you see them turn into Felbloods or the corrupted sort of wretched. That the Firewing or Sunfury snorted fel all day is itself wrong.
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Ruining the fantasy yet again to cater for the pathetic whiners. Revert these changes now and you can still appear to have a spine.
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How about⊠no
If they would give in to your whines, then⊠they would seem spineless? 
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Blue eyes doesnât make you high elf. Since TBC I knew Blood Elves were the QuelâThalas Elves that renamed themselves after Arthas decimate them.
They got green eyes after theyâve been experimenting with the well.
Green eyes or golden eyes doesnât make this a feature to be blood elves nor the other way around.
Now hold on here.
Arthaâs favoured son of the Alliance, butchered almost all the Elves.
The Fallen Alliance Prince is the very reason why they take the pledge of the fallen.
With their last remaining strength, the Elves seek to strengthen their position within the Alliance. Only to get Demeaned as a sub race by Baron Garithos Leader of the Alliance. Who leaves them for dead, and because they accept the help of the Naga to survive.
All of the remaining strong High Elves of Quelâthalas who had taken the pledge of the Fallen, calling themselves Bloodelves. Got looked up and would be exterminated by the Alliance. The Exodus of the Bloodelves is the main reason for them to go to outland. To not become extinct they flee into the portals to outland, while the Alliance perseus and tries to slay everyone of their kind.
This before the time of any fel taint in the Blood Elves.
Then we have the case of Ironforge who in the starting area betrayed the Elves once again. Sylvanas was in the Horde as well, she who paid the highest price when defending Quelâthalas. She sent aid to the Bloodelves to fight back the scourge. Ofc we know things went insane in bfa, but that is not the point here.
There are good reasons why Bloodelves are part of the Horde.
Why those High elves have taken the pledge of the fallen.
They adhire to the philosophy of the Horde.
The Philosophy of the Horde and the Blood Elf campaign in Wc3.
The Exodus and their story, is the reason many people play Bloodelves.
For a long time I have felt insulted as someone who plays the elves of Quelâthalas. Whenever people mentioned that the Bloodelves should be in the Alliance. Lorewise it would be quite insane. It would feel as a betrayal, to have Bloodelves move to Alliance, or to Have Alliance claim they have the real untainted pure Original Elves of Quelâthalas.
However⊠Now I have come around to the Idea, of those not being in Quelâthalas at the time. That they could have Alliance Loyalties, having not experienced Arthaâs or Garithos terror brought upon their people.
For the Elves of Quelâthalas, who experienced it though, it would be far to traumatic to join the Alliance. Besides time and being subject to different forces and energies changes a individual. What Blizzard here has done, is probably the only middleground solution they could do.
Now all Elves of Quelâthalas present or not at the time, lay partial claim to the High elven Heritage. While have moved on, or partially developing further into the new breed of Elves they are today. This way everyone can have fun.
No one has to take something away in this regard. No one has to be Lesser or unauthentic.
Congratulations Alliance, we all come from the same tree now.
Go and have fun.
And yes Blizz Sanâlayn please, we have been waiting like forever for them.
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The model does, originally they didnât, this was removed to avoid confusion, similarly Alleria, Pre:Void shenanigans should have had green eyes also, unless she was fibbing about this whole âThousand Years of Warâ malarkey.
It is notable that one of the NPCâs in the Allerian Stronghold has her original text line, Taela Everstride. She states: " Iâm a HIGH elf , not a blood elf . Donât worry, Iâm not going to suck all of the magic out of you!"
Now why would she need to make that distinction if it was a known factor that all Blood Elves had green eyes, not blue? As I say, originally they were going to have green eyes, those models, in which case she -would- have looked like a Blood Elf was âsupposedâ to look in peoples eyes. If she had Blue eyes in lore, then why on earth does she make that statement? The player character would -know- she is not a Blood Elf.
The wording Blizzard used were âIf you were a High Elf in Quelâthalas or Outlands during that time, the chances are high that you would have green eyesâ It doesnât say -every- High Elf did, I imagine a High Elf in Nagrand might not have been as at risk, as the ones in Allerian Stronghold, who after all right on the doorstep of Shadowmoon Valley.
With regards blue eyed Blood Elves, there is one NPC and several mobs types who have them, all Sunreavers, which supports the idea that if you lived in Dalaran, you didnât get green eyes.
Taking the most famed example, that would be Lanesh the Steelweaver.
Now we first see him in Wrath, he has been in Dalaran, he has blue eyes. The Purge happens, and he is one of those evacuated to Silvermoon. We -later- see him on the Isle of Thunder. Now between those two appearances there was a lot of speculation as to him having blue eyes, however Blizzard did not correct this when we later see him, despite him having been in Silvermoon.
It clearly wasnât a mistake.
If you look up âSunreaver Captainâ, and several other of the Sunreaver mobs during the Purge of Dalaran, they spawn with either green -or- blue eyes. Again, if they were all intended to have green eyes, surely that would have been easier to implement, than consciously making it so that they can have blue eyes also.
Just as an aside, they did not use Fel to repair the city, it was Arcane, the Fel Crystals had not yet been delivered to Silvermoon, and nor had the knowledge of how to drain mana from living creatures.
The Fel crystals were needed to ambiently maintain the arcane created buildings, in the same capacity that the Sunwell previously did.
As another curiosity, the Warlock trainer in the Silver Enclave is a High Elf, he has blue eyes. Now he -definitely- is a Warlock. Iâm willing to allow that to be a mistake, as a Warlock should surely have green eyes, whether a Sunreaver or Silver Covenant.
Hereâs an interesting one Iâd like your take on, as apart from the minutiae of Fel we agree on other aspects of Blood Elf lore, and whilst it has no real in game effect, it does pose a moral quandary if my supposition is correct, but lets see what you think?
-Because- the draining of mana from living creatures was a -learned- technique, and not something either Blood or High Elves -could- do beforehand, it would follow than new Blood Elven children would not in fact automatically have that ability (it wonât have become an evolutionary trait in one generation surely) which means that Blood Elven parents would be faced with the quandary of whether or not to instruct their children in how to do so, or, heartbreakingly, do you think they would wait until the child became adult, and gave them the same choice the Exiles had, with the possible same results?
I mean it is no longer -necessary- and has unpleasant connotations, but Blood Elves do not seem to shy away from visible, if painful reminders of their past. Do you reckon it is a teaching that would be passed on, or shuffled under the carpet as necessary during âThe Dark Timesâ?
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