None-casual players thoughts - titanforging isnt fine

got raiderio :v:

same reason why i care if a guy next to me is cheating.

how so? everyone’s equal to pay me gold and Ill boost them.

I mean, different people different playstyles. why wouldnt someone deserve a boost? he payed for it fairly.

I disagree but that’s for another day.

I’ve done over 400 runs in BfA and I never noticed toxicity.

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It’s like saying boosting shouldn’t be aloud… people getting boosted haven’t earned their gear therefore shouldn’t have it.

Yet boosted players never seem to get flamed, only TF/WF items do. It’s not exactly handicapping your game someone else getting WF/TF so I don’t see a problem.

You think someone earning a 370ilvl item from a WB earned it? No… no they didn’t.

Start playing YOUR game and stop worrying about other people’s game.

Edit: may I just add… 90%? Where are all you guys getting this figure from? I just want you to know forums and reddit and twitter make up like 1% of the player base. You do not speak on behalf of the majority so stop spreading BS on stuff you have no clue about.

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Boosting “shouldn’t” be allowed, because it ruins the point of people working for Curve, and asking for Curve. If I set up an Heroic raid, I don’t trust ANYONE who whispers me Curve, and that’s because the minority buy it.

Boosted players DO get flamed for it, they get flamed for not having the skills to play the game, and so shouldn’t be allowed the reward OF Curve. The only difference between it is WF/TF impacts ALL of the game, where as Boosted Curve players only affect raids, and Boosted M+ only affects dungeons (The M+ one would only get affected IF they buy +10 boosts for all dungeons).

No, but most people who are 370+ EARNED their gear. The game that I’m wanting to play, I’m having to “play safe” because of all the ways an LFR raider is able to get things and get to the point that they SEEM to be an Heroic raider.

I don’t care about people getting gear, I care about the progression of gearing itself. And, in this game, the progression is you either do LFR-Heroic raids, or you do Mythic. That’s it. There’s no “4 levels of ilvls”. There’s 2.

Those who spend time doing Heroics, are around the same ilvl, maybe 5-10 ilvl’s higher than those who do LFR raiding. So, LFR raiders do LESS work and get the same “progress” as those who put in the work.

boosting is fine. saying “boosting promotes undeserving rewards” is like saying AH promtoes undeserving rewards. but i think paying gold for something is fairly deserved.

I like boosting tho. makes me a lot of gold. i feel like people who hate on boosting are the ones who cant afford it.

Boosting is fine yet you don’t like the fact people don’t earn their own gear? My days you’re hypocritical sir.

I bet if you could make gold on guaranteed TF BOE items you’d not be complaining would you?

Boosting is far from fine. Like the other reply says.

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I’m totally against boosting. But don’t think TF/WF is a massive issue.

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I hate both.

F*** me, right?

The people SELLING the boosts is fine, the people USING the boosts are not. But, supply and demand is a thing.

Not to mention, if I get a 360 ilvl person in my raid doing 4-5k DPS, they’ll be kicked, cause it shows they’ve been boosted.

I’ll give you an example of why boosting can be a good thing.

Let’s say, I’m in a guild that needs a tank, but I don’t have a geared tank. I know HOW to play my tank, but I haven’t got the gear to do the content everyone else is doing. I would either get a BOOST from friends/guildies to get to the point I need too, or I’d buy some BOOSTS to get my gear to where I need it to be.

if you go to the store and buy a bread you earned that bread, because you payed for it.
its as simple as that, when you pay for something you earn it.
Not sure about others but I live in a modern society, if I want to live in ahouse i dont build a house, i pay for it.
If I want to eat a potato I dont go farming and planting potatoes, I pay for it.
pay for goods and services is pretty common thing in europe, everyone’s doing it I think.

wrong bet

its as fine as it gets. you pay for service

Jesus F-Christ. :man_facepalming:

You pay for a wow sub therefore you’ve earned the right to get TF/WF.

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:+1::+1::+1: !!! important :man_facepalming::man_facepalming::man_facepalming: :joy:

Actually, your wow sub only allows you access to the servers. It doesn’t give you ANYTHING else except access to the game. So, you pay the sub to get access to the game, and you get it.

Same as if you pay for a boost, you get the items YOU’VE paid for.

Paying sub does not give you gear, mounts, tmogs or anything else.

If that’s the case, then I demand to have full Mythic gear as soon as I log in, since I pay to be on the server.

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No but this is the argument he is trying to make. Pay for something and you’ve earned the right to have that item.

Same as sub, you pay for your sub to have the right to get said gear. You guys can look at it however you want but just remember what you’ve said prior so there’s less chance of making a fool of yourselves.

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No, his argument makes sense.

If you pay sub, you’ve paid for the right to be on the server. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you’ve paid for a boost, then you have the right to everything that said booster offers. Nothing more, nothing less.

Maybe you should read properly before replying, rather than making a fool out of yourself?

When you PAY for a SUB, you PAY for the SERVER, that’s it. Your sub does not buy you ANYTHING in game, it just gives you the game-time to play the game. And, guess, what, that’s exactly what you get. Whether you play the game or not is on YOU. So, you can pay for a month and never play it.

Same with boosting services. If you’ve PAID for the boost, you get whatever the booster allows you to get. So, most give you the achievements + all gear that drops that you can equipped. That’s what has been PAID for there.

The people which got boosted didn’t earned the gear or achievements by skillfully playing the content in which they got that kind of gear or achievements but paid for the boost in which they were carried in the content which they wouldn’t be able to make otherwise.

And because they got that in the current content ( the il and the curve ) they are now in the better position than the regular players which couldn’t afford the boost or don’t want to buy it because of the moral principles, and can get much easier into the PvE groups than them because of that.

Getting boosted isn’t earning gear… not sure how you’re finding this so hard to understand? Stop being hypocritical you silly man.

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I mean if I pay for service or product I obviously earned it. applies to anything.

Lord above you must live a sheltered life if you actually think paying for a boost is earning it lmfao!!

“I payed for my Doctors PHD, therefore I earned it.”

You can rationalize the boost runs, but in the end, they create more problems than they solve.

Right now you can buy an 8/8 mythic Uldir run with CE achieve. for 8m on my server. Buying one does make you a mythic raider? Hardly. Buying one makes you someone who “earned” that gear? I guess you can make an argument for this.

WoW is a game, you shouldn’t apply RL reasoning to everything in-game. Boosting as a “service” would be fine, but it would be even better if raiding guilds wouldn’t need to rely on boost runs to cover their expenses. But the amount of boost runs has exceeded a limit where it’s just plain stupid. The amount of groups selling runs is incredible. I wonder the players who actually earn their gear themselves are a minority nowadays. I wouldn’t be surprised.

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Besides, that mythic raider is likely to feel disappointed anyway if he gets something that isn’t TF with sockets. He got loot but it’s not as good as it could be so he isn’t as good as he could be.

I don’t dislike it because of some LFR guy getting a better piece than you, I dislike it because just about everyone is disappointed (or not excited) if they get gear that is “only” baseline for the difficulty.