Era servers are museum servers and as such is never meant to reset. Seasonal servers are the reset, fresh servers are the reset, and characters from these two pools end up in Era servers once they are done.
There is as of now 5 Era “servers” (clusters): 1 RP-PvP 1 RP-PvE, 2 PvP, 1 PvE
And the only thing we could ask for here is a merge of the 2 PvP sever clusters.
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It’s been proclaimed a museum by retail bois since launch.
Blizz promised that WoW Classic were to be a Museum piece. That there would always be permanent level 60 classic servers available, which would not be restarted.
I know I’m naive for trusting Blizz, but I still do.
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A company that heavily contradict themselves. Esp. with this “museum” that get frequent updates/downgrades.
It’s so bad that if the servers continue to bleed and remain partial ghost towns would continue they may as well adjust WSG to be 5v5. AB to be 7-10. AV to be 20v20. MC/BWL/AQ40/Naxx 50% nerfed overall and player limit reduced to 20. 5-10 for ZG and AQ20. Something like that. And do you see where this is going for “permanent” servers?
The line have to be drawn somewhere. And if they are so reluctant at doing the tiny moves it take to massively burst population (which is very much to late with how the transition to TBC went)… Again, we know where this is going.
Right in your favor for dead realms.
The current setup is highly discouraging for anyone to tour or even bother staying on Era unless seeking out information from active players in forums or running into a 1 year old post regarding clusters.
- All names start with a realmname. It’s ugly and annoying, confusing to anyone not seeking out cluster information.
- Clusters are divided while neither is able to sustain a medium pop realm.
- All realms indicate “low”, signaling: empty, don’t bother.
- Realmlist don’t indicate clusters, again relying on whoever logs into Era to seek out info beforehand.
If e.g there was only one pvp realm, people would be alot more incentivized to invest hours there as it would be THE eu pvp realm people are at, straightforward. No confusion for ppl looking to play with others, no bootleg names only saying “might not see this player again idk from another realm”.
If Blizzard fix the basic fundementals to foster a community with healthy influx of tourists, pop would not be an issue.
All names end with a realmname - even on the non clustered realms - big mystery why.
What do you mean? If you mean the PvP cluster you’re rigth - but then one PvP cluster is inhabited, the other not. All 3 PvE servers are one cluster.
All realms indicate “low” and with the realm numbers as they are now, and I think they would show “low” even if you counted players in the clusters and not on individual realms, as I sincerely doubt any of them would pass the limit to “medium”. (What is the limit? I do not know!)
Realm list should - as I have already once suggested - indicate clustering. To cite myself:
I fully agree that the solution now is less than optimal 
I want that too
@Vanillataur: To my knowledge, the clusters have always shown their total relative values of all connected realms within them. In other words, Classic realms have relatively low total numbers. Second, while I am not able to 100% confirm this, I think Classic realms are actually also compared against not only themselves, but also the likes of TBCC Firemaw and/or retail Silvermoon and Draenor… and in those comparisons, they lose a LOT in both absolute and relative numbers.
To make matters even more complicated, individual retail realms actually have LOWER activity caps, because they do not use layering, but rather get sharded as needed. In short, the “Low”, “Medium”, “High”, “Full”, “Locked” classification is actually fairly hard to decipher, especially if one has little idea of how things used to be a long, long time ago in comparison to how they are nowadays… and as they are an overall indicator, they also offer absolutely no help in determining anything about faction balance within a single server (regardless of whether it is a single realm or a connection of 4, 5 or even 10 as the case may be).
I think I read somewhere that connected realms only ever showed their individual population, but I do not remember where or when - and I’m so not going to read throught pages and pages again to find it.
I agree that Classic Era has low population, no matter if you count all realms together or the individual ones.
It was Classic’s population limits I did want to know, not RetaiL’s (they do not interest me the least little bit, as I do not play there - and haven’t even bought Shadowlands expac).
I did not look at Retail’s realm pop - they are all merged, grouped, Xrealmed, sharded ect. and so impossible to understand but I did some simple ingame /who of 10-55 to see how many were levelling in Retail, and the numbers were surprisingly low … realm, time and faction made almost no difference. And as for balance, I did not look … I’m ahardcore PvE’er
@Vanillataur: As far as retail is concerned, absolutely never. I know, because I played on both Defias Brotherhood and some of its’ other components both before and after they got connected.
This is more of an educated guess rather than fact… but I would say 24 000 concurrent is probably close to truth (this is basically the rough equalent of 4 retail realms).
As for this… Unfortunately, Blizzard broke the /who function (along with several addons and websites). You need to check everything with both warmode on and off and even after combining the data from those, you may still get errors… 
What majority are you talking about? I just wrote a post the other day talking about the status of ERA on Firemaw-pvp and got a mostly positive reaction.
SoM has been a failure, and probably a new classic fresh realm would make sense for all those who want fresh. But what is with this, we do not want era to thrive?
I read here that you create your own challenges and do not impose them on others - yet at the same time you are pondering for a complete reset of ERA. To hell with ‘niche’ players, right? lol
Also you don’t want to transfer b/c the server name is unnaceptable… what?
Fresh is good, as well as era coexisting, so everybody can choose and as somebody has said, players can remain on era later if they so desire. If Dottie & co. are right, we are so niche we will not significantly dent the fresh pop regardless. Can we agree on this? Oh and dont worry about it being a waste of money. Its my money after all.
But making accusations we want to impose something on somebody? I mean, thats the most stupid thing I have read in a long while here.
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I was advocating for a thriving community.
Sorry to step on your toes pondering if ERA should be reset. I don’t see you coming with any solution, and that’s not surprising as clearly you are just another who don’t want a thriving community.
You do try to impose your disastrous will upon RP server by demanding it to be kept in the dark to accommodate your solo play.
I speak solely about Classic. I haven’t played Retail since before Classic was announced - and before that I played only Ironman for years.
This means that Era server will always show as “low” as there’s not that many players - even on all EU Era relms rolled into one.
Urgh - I did know it didn’t count below level 10s any longer, but as it counted all I saw around me in the relevant level brackets I thought the rest waas fairly good. Still my short jaunts into Retail felt as desered as a low Classic server in the levelling areas
How is the PR server kept in the dark? We’re given the absolutely same knowledge as the other servers - not much!
How?
@Vanillataur: Fair, but as far as I am not mistaken, Blizzard did not alter this detail for Classic or TBCC.
Most likely.
Unless you used both warmode on and off results, whatever you got was too little by a fairly large margin. Because of what Blizzard did, Classic and TBCC data actually tends to be slightly better in terms of quality, even though it, too, is limited as evidenced in several other threads over the past several years.
I did not even know about Warmode 
so no, I did not, wonderingif everybody around me hadthe same setting - I guess off as default? - or are they put in another layer/shard? The feeling of deserted ghost towns still remains, though.
Anyway. I’m not going to discuss Retail, as it does not interest me. But I thank you for your time and ansswers.
@Vanillataur: That is fine. I am glad that there is a version of WoW that you like available for you to play. 
salutes
I play a bit of everything. Yesterday’s short WoW time consisted of working on Classic cooking on couple of my dwarves on Hydraxian Waterlords.
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I said fresh would be good together with era coexisting. You can read the post again. Do it 2-3 times if that helps you understand. I think merging era servers is also good as somebody has posted above.
I do play in a server with plenty of activity, the Firemaw PvP cluster, and im a pvper myself. I do not play solo… Im not Vanillataur you may be mistaken here…
Fresh no changes servers + Era coexisting sounds good, whats the problem there? Can’t you build a thriving community in a fresh server? What you are saying is you rather take my characters completely away from me for which I have played years for, just so we can launch fresh w/o era. What will I be supposed to do then? Join you? lol
I’ll just quote you to emphasize on the irony “I create my own challenges and I don’t impose them upon others.”
Retarded.
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Vanillataur actually agreed that a fresh PvP server would be good, and it was also Vanillataur suggesting merges down the line.
Just because Vanillataur does not do PvP, and apart from normal PvE also plays the IronMan semi-solo (nice guild included ) challenge, he is totally able to understand the needs and wants of other people.
PS. I’m not Bananoid, I’m not Zalanji, I’m not a huge amount of other players people has tried to merge me with. I am The one and only Vanillataur (and my retail-alt is Level, made before Classic was launched.)
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Wait for next SOM and start fresh together with me
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