PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 1)

the surname is priceless lmao

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It’s surprising just how much Blizzard have mucked up their setting - nobody cares about the new lore and its endless retcons, while allegedly new content surrounding the familiar is just endlessly rehashing what we already know

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They care, in the sense that they hate it.

“Buy our new books, it’s really in depth exploration of Azeroth!!!”

It’s literally what you see in game and have seen in game for the past 11 years. No changes. Absolute state of this creative writing department lmaooo.

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Nathanos would totally steal your cereal and pee on your houseplants.

Unless they’re fun characters, like Vigilant Quorum.

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I like this answer a lot because I made a joke a few days ago that maybe the lore just grows out of a magical beansprout, but that quote does make it seem like no one in Blizzard actually writes the damn thing, it’s just an ouroboros of ideas that mutate and devour themselves with no one at the helm.

Fully prepared for Blizzard to respond to it with “But we got criticism before for having things be only in the book but not in the game, now we tried to fix that. What more do you want??”

Why would I want him to pat me on the back and tell me I’m a good boy? That’s a pretty weird take my dude. Are you okay? I’m here if you want to talk.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/237307426968174593/918447211493339186/1639040788026.jpg

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I can imagine there are people in Blizzard who have spoke about wanting the story or zones to move in a similar, logical way that we have. But then there’s this slew of management like Danuser and Ion that bounces it back because “It’s a good idea, I hear you. I’ll take it onboard.” Or whatever other corpo, managerial language there is for “lmao ok”.

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“We’ll take it away and review to see if its feasible in our current models, we don’t have any new information yet but we’ll let you know as soon as we do.”

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That’s what I mean right, it’s like… someone posits an idea to change a zone, it gets the “yeah okay lol” response, it gets tabled, someone has to write an outside novel/story in that zone and all they have is a ten year old design doc and this empty idea sheet that was tabled six months ago and when they bring their proposed story in that zone forward it goes right back to the first guy who says “well we can’t change too much because we agreed (ie no one brought it up again) to not change too much”. And this just goes on and on and on.

EDIT: And then when there’s negative responses, Blizzard devs do what they usually do, lowkey blame the player base by insinuating this is a little bit their fault for stressing out the writers and designers which then becomes ammunition for guy number one again to say there’s no point in changing the story in old zones too much because it’s not going to be well received.

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Why would the RULER of the blood elves make time to teach a random troll how to read and write anyway!?!? Doesn’t he have a nation to govern? And why does this book exist anyway? Not just because it barely adds any new lore from what I’ve seen, but because Blizzard clearly has given up on being consistent with the lore, so what’s the point of a lore book at this point? Aside from letting Blizzard cash in on fans who don’t know any better, I mean.

Only thing I dislike about Jaina is her inconsistent flip flop writing.

Couldn’t have her keep hating the Horde, sadly :frowning:

Quel’thalas = Thalassian

Thalas = Home.

Thalassian = Homesian?

The language, according to Suramar it went like this:
Zandali > Elvish > Darnassian > Thalassian/Nazja/Shalassian

It’s for the… I would say whales, but more in terms of personal investment than MTX. People buying it just because it says Warcraft on it. Who love it just because it says Warcraft on it, even though it’s meaningless and adds nothing new.

And, as you say, cashing in on fans despite not doing anything worthwhile. But that’s pretty much Shadowlands as a whole really.

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The language of home?

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Thalassians = Homeies.

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Halduron Brightwing warned us of this in the Zul’Again patch, warning us of Lor’themar’s politics.

What Lor’themar is doing is engineering the rebirth of the Highborne Empire. The ruler of the nightborne is besotted with him. That’s two cities under his heel, their marriage and children will cement it.

Now he needs to dig roots into Kalimdor. What better way than educated all the Horde officials? Peppering their education with pro-Highborne doctrine of course. And what better way to initiate it by educating the up-and-coming twitter meme— I mean Horde Ambassador himself?

(based)

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All our textbooks will read like pro-helf threads on how they’re the best thing since ever and how history began when they set foot on the eastern shores, manifest destiny style.

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