Incredibly based of him. He should do this more often.
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The Undermine(d) story is actually a rather Horde-coded story, if Iâm honest. That whole patch is the main reason why Iâve stopped rambling about Horde representation, because weâve gotten it for the War Within. Not on the same level as the Alliance, Iâd argue, but it still counts.
As for why itâs Horde-coded, itâs a story that it is all about soul-searching, rebellion and the radical transformation of a raceâs society and culture by challenging its darkest elements. Thatâs a Horde story, through and through, that the majority of Hordeâs races and allied races have gone through at this point.
Just like how the Hallowfall Arathi are Alliance-coded because their story is all about the importance of faith and tenacity when faced with a great darkness that threatens their ancient and storied civilisation and way of life.
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i can also confirm after seeing it happen for the 100th time, and the only interesting conflicts being stripped away into councils that literally never do anything interesting ever again, Iâm tired boss
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And how much of the race is left in the end?
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I can not for the life of me tell if you are being sarcastic or not.
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Also, the protagonist is a Horde racial leader, and the antagonist is a former Horde racial leader.
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I always thought it was gonna be Anduin with his entire previous character arc having been how he was a priest who also wielded shadow magic and saw the good in using both light and shadow.
But then I remembered that they completely dropped that whole plot arc the second varian died.
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They wonât even let him see his boyfriend, smdhâŠ
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We need to accept that this is the Hordeâs primary story, whether we like it or not.
Orcish society transforming under Thrallâs reign and the redemption of Grom Hellscream.
The Forsaken snatching freedom from the Scourge and creating their own independent, free-thinking society.
Blood elves turning against Kaelâthas and his demon-serving ways and the power promised by the Legion, in favour of Azeroth and their new allies.
The Darkspear Tribe challenging the Zulian scheme to unify the tribes under the Zandalari banner and putting their bond with the Horde first.
Garrosh Hellscream being overthrown as the Horde rejects his racial supremacy and single-minded warmongering in favour of a more pragmatic approach.
The Iron Horde abandoning its dreams of conquest in favour of coexistence with the other peoples of Draenor, though admittedly this comes to bite them in the backside.
The rebellion of the Nightborne against Elisandeâs regime and creating a new life for themselves, free from addiction and free from tyranny.
Zandalari society crumbling from within thanks to a cult exploiting its flawed traditions and way of life, which culminates in Talanji seeking to reform and improve the empire when she takes over.
The Forsaken turning against the increasingly monstrous Sylvanas Windrunner and renewing their focus on free will as a fundamental aspect of the Forsaken.
Undermine challenging the darkest aspects of capitalism and goblin society as represented by Gallywix and replacing them with a more equitable way of living.
Vulpera, tauren and Highmountain tauren are the only Horde races that arenât forced to radically change their way of life when faced with the flaws of the society that they exist under. Even then, Baine and those tauren loyal to him still participated in both Horde rebellions.
The easiest way to tell a Horde story is to make it all about societal change and revolution, Iâm afraid.
*Metzen was going through some things.
Same thing said about Before the Storm with the Forsaken, and it turned out to be an absolute disaster. Little Horde focus, most of the book is Alliance side.
On one hand, sad. On the other hand, please keep it vague, only Blizzard and God knows how they can mess up his youth, and God ainât telling us!
What even is this argument? They look like humans and dwarves so its Alliance-coded story?
Wait, so if the race looks like an Alliance race it is Alliance-coded, but if it looks like a Horde race, its mostly neutral?
Also, Arathi arenât humans, they are half elves.
Also, Earthen arenât dwarves, they are Earthen.
If we start applying that logic, vrykul are humans doing human things. Ogres are orcs doing orc things, void elves are blood elves doing blood elf things. Add infinitum with every playable race.
cant wait to see what new elf lady theyll try and foist on him in Midnight to keep the Wranduin allegations down
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Undermine is definitely a Horde story, come on fellows lets be real.
But all of TWWâs initial release, and the main characters of the expansion, are Alliance. Completely and utterly.
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Yes, and I hate it 
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well it had no alliance races involved so that was a plus
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But there were Darkfuse humans and as we know every human is a representative of the Alliance.
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Honestly, if it werenât for WoW Twitter or the forums, I donât think I ever wouldâve stopped to consider whether a bookâs characters were Alliance or Horde. If the book looks interesting, Iâm going to read it - faction doesnât really factor into it for me.
It isnât that theyâre Horde or Alliance, but rather Blizzard have a very favoured doll set they use. And over-exposure to some gets tedious after a while. And everything/one else plays second fiddle to them.
That and they are a bit cyclical with the story telling. Another story about family and love and light and dark and family? Very daring. Weâll see, i suppose.
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Well shat. I have absolutly zero (0) trust for Golden writing with the (hypothetical, maybe background) Horde involved. Or for worldbuilding.
Iâll be taking my spot in the doom queue.
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They might even boldly venture into âchild of heroes feels overwhelmed by their large shadowsâ or âparents dont know how to reconcile with child who is differentâ or maybe, if theyâre REALLY daring âchild and parents reconcileâ.
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