PTR Spoiler/Discussion Thread (Part 3)

WoW writer challenge: Do anything without mentioning “family” “redemption” or “honor”.

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A good litmus test for whether something is or isn´t Alliance or Horde story is to reverse it to the opposite team (this is mainly for fans of one or the other faction).

So, if we now got a whole major patch about Argent Crusade (focused on humans of Hearthglen), where our main hero is Turalyon and main villain is Bolvar, and the whole theme is fixing problems of Argent Crusade and its paladins, with Mehlar Dawnblade being there alongside Turalyon for the first 2/3 of the story before dying, would you call it an Alliance-coded story?

Because I doubt anyone would try to say how a patch about Turalyon, a neutral Silver Hand offshoot and their neutral human city is somehow not still an Alliance-centric story.

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Ultimate challenge: Don’t repeat a past storyline 1:1.

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Just because something is easy doesn’t make it good.

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5 minute cooldown and 10 minute duration?

That’s getting nerfed before it goes live. FUN DETECTED.

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5 minute duration, 2 hour cooldown incoming.

(To this day I don’t understand what twisted logic lies behind the cooldowns on toys.)

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I feel a little bad for those who would hope for a nearly-playable Sethrak, cos the appearances look randomised?

Ah well.

That Polearm! I need it! For my Thalassian Elves! Its awesome

And one day, when we have Druid of the Flame skin appearance and Night Elf Shamans I could use a Elemental Chimaera!

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That Sunwell Bardiche is awesome. Blood Knights have been in need of some good weapons IMO.

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It comes.

Nog hyped at all for the story, ngl.

Atleast the new Strom Tabard makes up for it a little bit

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The pitch for the story is fantastic. Addressing the fact that most people don’t just forgive and forget. Extremely excited to see all the roleplay people will create off the back of this.

The story as Blizzard played it out? Kinda lame, imho from both WAR and PEACE loving sides. It’s just weak.

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“Faction grievance” story advertised
look inside
scarlet crusaders and any alliance perception removed

hmm

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Upon investigating my own faction I have discovered no wrongdoing.

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I think the premise is great. I just feel like they could have made it alot more impactful if they made the Red dawn seem like a more serious threat. Rn it seems like just a minor nuisance to be swept aside with the most minimal effort.

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A minimal threat that burned several settlements on its own, that Kor’kron and 7th Legion couldn’t sweep aside together. I just love this rollercoaster between representing the Red Dawn as a bunch of brigands fit only to be trash mobs and as a force for the faction elites to be reckoned with. Makes one ask difficult questions, I’d say.

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From what I’ve skimmed through, this story just seems to be another in a long line of “meh” at first glance but dig a bit more and you see for what it is.

The issues at hand don’t seem to originating from the two factions inadequacies that are being exploited or exacerbated but the Red Dawn was just that good apparently.

One of the main antagonists is a cartoonishly meme’d up villain (Bubble + Hearth) and a Scarlet. Boy am I tired of seeing these guys used a general bad guy placeholder instead of being explored as a genuine response to a crisis that appeared and persists in various forms to this day.

Has a bad messaging about letting subversive people within your own holds that undermine your people and authority getting away because “If you kill them, they win” despite them having proven already willing to commit infiltration, murder and willingness to instigate another war with your historical enemy you’re at truce with.

All and all, this is terrible and toothless.

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I am just tired of them using cartoonishly villians factions instead of using actual Stromic people, who were displaced during War wanting to return to their farms and finding out the Horde laid claim to them when they settled the lands.

It would give the actual people some grievances with not being allowed to reclaim their farms after all the horrible things they went through, due to the truce and alot of people not wanting to restart the war

If they wanted to make it even spicier, they could have had Stromic who turned Forsaken reclaim their farms and then, because of that, the living family members would be unable to: who would be in the right then? Both have claim to the lands/farms, so one would always be disadvantaged by it. Or some other scenario which would give some actual grievance to the people.

Instead we just have a frankensteins monster of a villian faction made up by the Syndicate, Scarlet Crusade and Defias make up the enemy while the Horde race with no actual justification for claiming lands in Arathi make up the Horde faction😩

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Hilariously not even the actual Syndicate, but an occupied Syndicate just filled with Defias and Scarlet ideologues. The actual Syndicate, wait for it, flee the scene to help you the player uncover the Red Dawn plot and spill the beans, and afterwards go off to make a new syndicate. Lmfao.

Syndicate randomly taken over by Legion in Legion.

Syndicate randomly then taken over by Scarlets in TWW.

Poor Syndicate man they can’t catch a break.

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