That’s a great point but it’s overlooking the far more important aspect that I want to make fun of Shaw.
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Atleast it’s confirmed that Turalyon doesn’t like ruling Stormwind either but he does it out of duty.
Which just makes Anduin worse, imho. Mr holy bones puts a man on the regency that doesn’t wanna rule, while Genn was right there and didn’t mind.
It’s kinda weird that the military dude who led a space crusade has little Ws here. I’d expect Turalyon to at least be a decent at implementing security throughout the kingdom so that mild threats like Defias, Murlocs, Gnolls and so on are nullified.
Sure, have him ruffle some feathers due to being a national hero that people have deified almost so he can demand nigh anything or that because he’s been on a space crusade, dude is entirely disconnected from the day to day issues from the common folk and can’t relate to anyone who isn’t a century or millenia old Draenei since he’s still LARPing as one of them.
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It’s pointless to look for Watsonian logic when the explanation is Doylist. Blizzard can’t be bothered to keep facts straight. What, you actually care about lore consistency? Lol, nerd.
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“At some point in the War Within”
It was literally written in Faerin’s short story released with Legacy of Arathor that he was returning to Stormwind.
Also, Turalyon was chosen as regent because he was previously regent during Stormwind’s reconstruction after the Second War. Him being chosen by Anduin is perfectly well supported by existing lore.
You’d think people who loved the old lore so much would know this.
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As was said, wasn’t sure if it had been mentioned before now as my memory of Warcraft’s lore isn’t encyclopedic, but thank you for bringing up the point where he did return.
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Absolutely. I’m not particularly fond of him being friends with Kayn Sunfury for example, which is also why I haven’t raised a finger to argue against that point. I think the world feels a little bit smaller when everyone knows everyone.
But ultimately:
This is very much the case. I’ve said it for close to 10 years now since the doomposting over WoD that if I ever reach a point where I can’t find anything to be excited about in an expansion, I’m just not going to play it. I don’t need to like everything, I just need to like enough.
The lore isn’t perfect, there’s plenty of room for improvement. I just find people exaggerating things and blowing things out of proportions (up to and including calling for the game to be shut down) and disguising them as lore discussions for the Nth time tiring when the truth of the matter is that people just didn’t like it. You can dislike something without needing to justify it.
And I’m not here to argue that you should like this book, or Midnight, or whatever else—matters of taste are always subjective. But as long as people are spreading misinformation about the lore, I’m here to correct it to the best of my ability.
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I just want to point out I wasn’t bieng serious, I love World of Warcraft!
If you’ll permit me to yap even further, here’s my current list of likes in Midnight
- Silvermoon. The city looks gorgeous, and I’m glad it received the Suramar and Boralus treatment of city design. From the videos I’ve seen so far, it’s full of little detail that makes it feel lived in and alive. I hope the Horde-exclusive area still has the familiar trappings of the TBC city.
- The cosmetic sets. They’re suitably elven in design while still being distinctly civilian, instead of being blown out of proportions WC3 Hero units—they’re cool, but not exactly civilian wear. My only concern is that we have seen 3 out of 6 sets they previewed at Gamescom? One of the missing sets is worn by NPCs on the Alpha too, so I find it odd that we’re missing it. I hope it’ll be added later. I also appreciate that the sets (including the questing ones) come in each faction’s colour, instead of forcing us into the cloth = magister, mail = farstrider, plate = blood knight colour schemes. What if I wanted a high elf-coloured plate set? Well we’re getting that.
- Housing. I am extremely, extremely, extremely excited for housing. Every MMO that I’ve played that has housing from SWTOR, ESO to Epsilon, I’ve been all about it. Me and my guildies have participated in every housing PTR test and reported hundreds of bugs because we’re invested in it.
- Faol’s portion of Arator’s questline in the Scarlet Monastery. I personally think he has been consistently written since Legion to be exactly like his book counterpart from the old novels. A wise and compassionate father figure who truly embodies the virtue of grace who reformed the Church out of its hateful past, but still manages to have a sense of dry wit that makes him endearing enough to be around. Him reflecting on his struggles with Saidan’s legacy was nice since he viewed the first Five Paladins as his sons, and seeing what became of him felt like a failure on his part.
- Halduron being directly involved in the main storyline. I often feel like he gets brushed aside in-game as an NPC who seldom even gives quests—he’s just there to fill out the posse while Rommath and Lor’themar carry most of the weight.
- Farstrider lore about their druidic connections. It was something people have kind of headcanoned over the years, but seeing concrete evidence of it was nice along with worldbuilding detail about the manawyrns—and how it retroactively made mana siphoning seem like an actually morally grey action as opposed to meat eaters vs vegan. Them mana tapping the manawyrms expedited the collapse of Eversong because the manawyrms are a critical part of the forest’s life cycle.
- Amani worldbuilding. Seeing the domains of their Loa expanded to have greater identity and their role in their culture, such as Jan’alai being their Loa of Death and Rebirth, where previously all we know is they were just the Loa of… Dragonhawks. We get more insight into the various forest trolls tribes, their customs, and their relationship with the Amani.
I can’t comment on the main questline because I’ve purposefully avoided reading about it from content creators on the Alpha. I think I’ll want to experience it for myself and read the quest texts before making an informed verdict on how I feel about it.
My dislikes:
- Haranir lore. I’ve said it before, but for the sake of posterity, I don’t think they fit in. Their lore is predicated on taking the spot and identity of tauren and night elf druids, the former of which has been chronically starved of lore for 20 years and now their primary cultural cornerstone upon which everything else is built is being astroturfed by the Haranir to make them the cool new thing. Even so, their lore is also internally inconsistent with itself where they can’t agree on whether they’re descended from trolls, or predate the trolls. Two sources claim both at once, and it feels like a narratively dissonant mess to me. They look visually cool, but no matter how I try to give their lore a positive spin, another source already contradicts that. — That being said, if people like them and are excited to RP them, all power to them. I hope they have fun, they’re just not for me.
- The Garrosh questline, though I heard from the grapevine that apparently it’s being scrapped and rewritten following feedback.
- The pacing of the main questline. While I haven’t done it myself, a quick count reveals that apparently it’s 16 quests long across the entirety of Eversong-Ghostlands. Most modern single zone main questline are about 30-or-so quests long. We have half of that for what’s effectively two zones. It feels a bit breakneck speed to me. Sure, most people don’t read quests, but I do.
- For an expansion set in Blood elf lands, our primary companions for the quests in Eversong are two Paladins of the Silver Hand and Alleria Windrunner. Liadrin has a very minimal presence in the story currently, and it runs into the same problem we’ve had since Shadowlands where we’re advertised a rounded main cast, but the token Horde character gets sidelined after the expansion intro and they sit in the hub while the Alliance characters do all the work. Even though I play Alliance, I find it a bit distasteful—especially since for once we’re in Horde territory. High elves should have a place, I don’t mind Alleria being there and Arator as an extension but I think we could replace Turalyon with Liadrin in the main questline if we need a Light user there to balance out Alleria.
- Lack of Troll cosmetics to balance out the Elven. Zul’Aman is an integral part of the story and us having an entire reputation with them feels weird if we don’t get anything to show for it. The zone, from what I have currently seen, seems to still reward elven themed questing gear as rewards.
- Lack of Crate toys. Every patch in TWW released a few of them, and they were a godsend for RP. I really want elven and troll-themed crates toys of culturally appropriate holdable items in Midnight. Ideally a Blood/High elven, Void elven, Haranir and Amani crates.
I’m not going to comment further on the upcoming book because it’s not out yet and I want to read it for myself before forming my opinion instead of extrapolating from a few snippets shared out of context on Twitter.
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Two Earthen sets aren’t available to players still, so I don’t find it odd. They’ll probably keep it for NPCs and raise my ire further. I really want the Gundargaz set.
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I think we should have those too. Shame that they didn’t add them, not even with Siren Isle which was basically a dump for unused cosmetic assets.
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I think we should have them. But we still don’t which smells.
Hopefully they appear later (but not a remix later) and hopefully all civilian sets come out. Options are always better and holding them back for stupid reasons like miles away later content is ridiculous. Let us be well dressed and appropriate for our RP!
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Sorry, the what questline? I’ve missed this entirely.
There’s a quest in the Arcantina where we learn that Warsong hate Garrosh so much they’ve been going out of their way to make pilgrimage to his grave in AU Nagrand to spit on his remains and defile his grave. An otherwise cool premise, but…
AU Draenor is collapsing and about 30-40 years later, but the quest takes us to peaceful idyllic WoD-era Nagrand, which doesn’t make much sense timeline wise, much less the fact that it required a shard from the Bronze Dragons for us to open a single portal there briefly whereas the Warsong have just been hopping over casually?
The feedback was loud and the quest is being scrapped/rewritten from what I’ve heard.
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here we go 
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The wolf plushie I want is in the shop.
Ah well.
Why introduce a virtual currency that you buy with real money, instead of just selling decor for real money directly?
The only reason I can think is to force players to buy more of the virtual currency that they will actually spend on decor, because it will only be sold in fixed quantities. Which is a scummy practice.
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Similarly, the costs of items are designed to align with Hearthsteel offer amounts in a player-friendly way. Buying Hearthsteel at the amount you want lets you purchase the items you want without requiring you to think about which packs should be added together to minimize leftovers.
Unlikely, they have to follow EU regulations in 2026 from what I’ve read in the comments. If anyone knows about this to add more, can’t say I’ve looked it up.
The bit that rubs me the wrong way with this article the most, is this bit:
Smaller Housing items in the shop are often low cost and players will want to purchase multiples of them to complete a set. As an example, you may want a full set of chairs to place around a dining table, multiple place settings for your invited guests, or even many candles to help decorate the room for a complete look. Using an in-game currency can help make the process of obtaining many of these types of inexpensive items more efficient.
So, if there’s a dining chair you really want for your dining table, but it’s only available by Hearthsteel, and you want six of them to fit around the table… You have to pay for the chair six times.
“Oh but we’re going to put them at low cost because we’re meeting you more than halfway on this! 
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How would one write down a long, loud fart sound to provide as feedback?
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You answered yourself, really!
Mind, normally I do not mind buying stuff from the shop, its awesome… Usually! But this is just Bethesda level of BS!(Skyrim and Fallout Creation shop-thingy lvl of BS)
And then I see this and I feel its even worse than Bethesda’s Skyrim’s and Fallout’s shops! 
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