PVP quality of life changes that need to happen

All Character will be boosted to a baseline of 430 ilvl when entering battlegrounds.

Conquest Point generation from all sources increased by 100%.

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That would be best if it applied to all unrated PvP. The one good thing about Legion using templates was that you could jump in on a fresh 110 and do fairly well, nowadays we’ve got fresh 120s with 100k HP getting 1 shot by fully geared players.

Perhaps for certain activities, getting conquest through arenas is tedious. Why bother when I could just hop into pvp islands and get 50 for a win without even seeing an enemy player?

Though other things do give huge chunks of conquest like the supply chests, bounty bags and PvP weeklys.

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I have to agree with this, seeing people with 2 mill hp in BG and others with like 250k isn’t fun…even saw one player with like 79k hp in one.

They also should remove all the crap in BG like corruption, azerite, and just have base spell dmg to eliminate the horrid lag in epic BG’s these days.

Wintergrasp and ashran is horrid even with the player limit being reduced.

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Templates kill raiding and what remains of casual heroic guilds. It also reduces the time a player has to spend gearing, so it’s unlikely to come back with the current blizzard strategy to overwhelm you with grind.
This game used to be about character progression, so boosting turns it into a MOBA. Also the weak and lazy should fear the strong and nolife.

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Its 1.5 hours for me with 2v2 , 3v3 , 10v10 rated.

Unrated bgs doesnt reward neither gear nor conquest.

Use lfg queue rated.

Imagine if we could buy gear with Marks Of Honor that is actually level 120. I guess Im going to spend couple weeks dying while waiting 425 random drops from BGs.

Will happen on shadowlands , they bring vendors that you can buy gear with conquest grind.

Good idea. But gear doesn’t do it for lack of skills.

Uhm… Why? You can make 330 CQs each day + 3 weekly call to arms (cta) quests if youre lagging behind. And that’s without rbgs.

Daily bg + epic bg 105 cq
daily brawl or whatever is up 40 cq
Daily assault 60 + 50 (supply crate) 110 cq
Daily supply crate in nazjatar 75 cq
… and 3 cta weeklys 325 cq
… the possible n’zoth quest from tca if your group is up for it 150 cq
etc

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Sadly not going to happen until 9.0. and looking at alpha state of things and Class design it will be BFA 2.0. So yeah we get proper gear to do PvP via PvP but game will still be awful. They are clueless, incompetent and out of touch and they know it and do not care.

Gear is literally everything in WoW pvp now, more so than in years prior.

Even if you gave everybody 450 gear for free upon entering a bg, they would still get dunked on by mythic plussers/ raiders who are sitting at 470-475 item level. The difference of a mere 20 item levels is night and day. And that’s not even mentioning corruptions and trinkets.

Skill matters yes, to a very limited degree. But right now, even the worst Timmy McRaider can walk into pvp and start wrecking the place because of their gear.

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