I am not defending it, where it needs tuning, you just talk incoherent things about arms dmg, where it’s a ww problem and utility is where arms problem is.
In regards to arms, I already said - intervene should be nerfed, they already nerfed rally and with intervene nerf that will significantly lower arms potential to be so strong in teams compositions.
That shouldn’t happen, though, before nerfs to ww dmg, convoke, ret burst, ele…
So as I said relax, we don’t want another BFA, where monk was the better in everything warrior.
I see it you have problems vs arms warriors, but try to be more objective.
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Because spec is in a bad spot, not because its unpopular hipster spec like demo.
I am, and i missspeled, didnt eant to stay constant burst, just best overall sustained damage in the game, add to that defensive and utility and i”ll gladly play a warrior style instead of ww.
I do hope they dont murder warriors or ww.
Or any spec for that
Matter!
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way faster now? like they ever went oom in the first place lol
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Arms doesn’t have 1 shot potential, arms doesn’t have self healing, arms is useless without strong healer behind, can’t kite others, can’t escape, can’t dictate tempo, on the contrary, it’s one of the easiest specs to be dictated tempo on as is mostly re-active instead of pro-active.
People play around mage combust, ww burst, ret burst, convoke, nobody cares to play around avatar, I don’t see CD heaviliy burnt around this, but it’s expected warriors to do it vs mages/ww/ele…
I see that with past expansions people have used to thinking about arms as “free kill” and “meh…nothing more than mediocre”, and now when they actually can do something (still can’t one shot or self heal or teleport around the map) people start to whine, a but unfair.
Arms needs to be oppressive, that’s what they have to do. The utility kit is a bit overloaded, but after rally nerf, with a bit of intervene nerf, they will be in the right spot.
No, it is not. Condemn is kind of broken, but there are still warriors that is doing well with other covenants, so it is not the only choice. Condemn should never have been the strongest choice for pvp.
That is just crazy talk.
From 4% to 6% is not 2% increase of effectiveness… It’s actually a 50% increase in effective damage which is absolutely massive.
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Sub in Thug does as much as in RMX locks the target to let Hunter unleash all his burst. The only issue might be Hunter not being able to peel as much as Mage to help Rogue restealth. Also Hunter’s burst is not even near to Combust. The advantage of Thug over RMX like Jungle is that it works with R Shaman as much as Disc so it might give Hunter and Rogue more time to land a kill since Shaman is the most mana efficient healer. Is it enough to see it in AWC - probably not but it will help in the ladder.
Yes and there are few more:
- MW monk
- Unholy Dk
- Demo Lock
- Assa rogue
- I would put DH as well on the list. The fact that main DHs had to re-roll to warrior or retri is really talkative
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@Blizzard,
MW monk needs design change, not just tweaking:
- change Paralysis to the same as it was in Legion. 15 sec CD.
- give back way of the crane playstyle as it was in Legion with the same mana cost, not with 25% mana cost. I totally don’t understand why it was screwed up in BFA and why it is removed in Shadowlands.
- change leg sweep back to 5 sec instead of 3 with 45 sec CD instead of 1 min.
- change healing elixir to the same as it was in legion. Could be used in stun and it was also triggering automatically at 35% hp.
Consider the following as well from Tabouret:
- Bring back Nimble brew
- Remove the GCD on Soothing mist
- Cocoon while stunned
- Bring back spear-handed strike
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I am so excited for Death Strike buff. Oh wait…
So you mainly nerf the mana regen in PvP but you don’t change anything with insanely high burst many classes can pull off. 
(Monks, Paladins, Warriors, Mages)
Good tuning but can we tune WW down already ffs
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Yes please, they’re dominating!
Probably because being blown up by a MW with WotC on a short cooldown that is healing whilst doing damage is stupid. But afaik, MW always had a broken wotc style build once or so per expansion so they’ll probably have one (in 2s anyway).
I don’t think these changes will do much at all re: OP.
How many WW did you see in AWC compared to mage/arms/Ret ?
Probably because it made mistweavers BY FAR the strongest healer in season 1 of BFA
Demonology Buffs and changes are unbelievable, demo is the new meta spec ofc 
Are you denying how broken WW monks are at the moment?
another useless patch…
no nerf to ret /ape war/ele/ww damage
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