Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

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He s right

Green eyes on blood elves is not about direct fel consumption

Its a side effect after used demon lives and fel crystal for fix the magic addiction

Blood elves are not demons or like ilidaris demon hunters

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Blood elves, a race in the World of Warcraft universe, have distinctive green eyes due to their connection to magic and their history. This eye color is a symbolic and physical manifestation of their deep relationship with the arcane powers they once wielded and the tragic consequences of their overuse.

Here’s a breakdown of the lore behind their green eyes:

  1. Arcane Addiction: The blood elves were originally high elves, a race of beings who were deeply attuned to magic. They relied heavily on the energies of the Sunwell, a powerful source of magic, to sustain themselves. When the Sunwell was destroyed by the forces of the Scourge, the high elves were left without their primary source of magic.
  2. Transformation into Blood Elves: After the destruction of the Sunwell, many high elves turned to alternative sources of arcane power to survive. They became addicted to magic, seeking it out in dangerous ways, even tapping into demonic energies. This addiction left them with a physical mark — their eyes turned green as a sign of their magical hunger and their corrupted relationship with the arcane.
  3. The Green Eye Symbolism: The green eyes are a visual marker of their inner struggle with their addiction to magic. It’s a representation of their ongoing need to feed on magical energies to sustain themselves. The blood elves’ eyes glow green to show their constant battle with the consequences of their magic reliance.
  4. The Sunwell’s Restoration: With the restoration of the Sunwell, the blood elves regained access to the original, purer arcane energies. While this somewhat mitigated their dependency on the more dangerous sources of power, their eyes remained green, symbolizing the lingering effects of their past and their continuing need for arcane magic to thrive.

So, the green eyes are both a mark of the blood elves’ tumultuous history and a symbol of their ongoing struggle with magic and its effects on their people.

Yeah
Elves are sponges
We soak up left and right any energy we could find
Void, Fel, Arcane, Light, life and death… blood
Anything is fair play

GO TEAM SPONGE!!!

Which people is the most loyal to Quel’dorei people between blood elves and alliance “high elves”?

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In the World of Warcraft universe, the loyalty of the Blood Elves and the High Elves to the Quel’dorei people—an ancient group of elves—is quite different and depends on their respective histories and alignments.

1. Blood Elves:

Blood Elves are the descendants of the Quel’dorei, the high elves of the original kingdom of Quel’Thalas. However, after the destruction of their homeland during the Third War, the blood elves became increasingly disillusioned with the Alliance, especially after they were abandoned in their time of need and faced with the scourge of addiction to magic. This led to the formation of the Blood Elves, led by Prince Kael’thas Sunstrider, who eventually aligned with the Horde.

Although the Blood Elves still view themselves as the Quel’dorei, their priorities have shifted. They maintain a strong connection to their heritage and culture, but they are more focused on their survival and reclaiming their magical prowess rather than their loyalty to the Alliance or their original Quel’dorei identity. Their loyalty lies more with their people, especially after the Alliance failed to support them during their darkest times.

2. High Elves (Alliance):

High Elves are another group that descends from the Quel’dorei, but they remained loyal to the Alliance even after the fall of Quel’Thalas. During the Third War, many high elves were still part of the Alliance, but they were scattered and diminished in number after the war. Some of them, like the Silver Covenant, continued to uphold their ancestral ties to Quel’Thalas, though they refused to join the Horde.

High Elves within the Alliance still have a deep reverence for their Quel’dorei roots and are committed to protecting the elven way of life, but their connection to their former homeland has become more symbolic. They still see themselves as Quel’dorei, but their loyalty is directed towards the Alliance, which they believe represents a way to preserve their values and identity in a world that has changed.

Comparison:

  • Blood Elves: While the Blood Elves are directly descended from the Quel’dorei, their loyalty is now primarily focused on their people and the Horde. They have evolved into a separate identity, largely shaped by their struggles with addiction to magic and their history of betrayal by the Alliance.
  • High Elves: High Elves, on the other hand, remain more loyal to the original Quel’dorei people in terms of heritage, but their loyalty to the Alliance comes at the cost of distancing themselves from the more recent Blood Elf identity.

Conclusion:

In terms of loyalty to the Quel’dorei people specifically, the High Elves (those who remained with the Alliance) would likely be considered more “loyal” to the traditional Quel’dorei identity, as they maintain their ancestral ties and culture while still upholding the values of their people. The Blood Elves, while descended from the Quel’dorei, have shifted their loyalty toward the Horde and their survival, though they still hold their Quel’dorei heritage in high regard.

Wowpedia says otherwise, the split had to deal with Rommath’s teachings (that he brought from Kael’thas), and those teachings were about tapping into demon magic (as well as other sources of magic).
wowpedia.fandom. com/wiki/Quel%27Lithien_Lodge
If you can link trustworthy sources that tell otherwise, please do so, otherwise keep your groundless and offensive banter to yourself.

Definitely not, as I had already said Blood Elves’ involvement with the Fel is quite low even compared to Orcs (whose skin still bears the remembrance of the fel), let alone such fel addicts as demon hunters or felblood elves.
But the trace of the fel is still there. As an individual RP player you can certaintly claim to never have been touched by fel and use alternative sources of magic, but that claim that “majority of blood elves have never been touched by fel in any measure” is non sense.

It could be indirect fel interaction, fair point. But denying interaction with Fel entirely is denying WC3 lore.

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I dont deny, btw I m not a blood elve, I m a high elve fanatic and supremacist refugee.

The light has showed me the way and how alliance elves betrayed their own legacy.

:dracthyr_comfy_sip:

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I was doing the Kirin Tor questline today and one of the SC npcs was talking about the need to come together and provide solace without group distinctions :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Looking forward to elven unification in Midnight! 🩵

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Which arguements do you have in favor of a reunification?`

Because I ve plenty of arguements to avoid thiis

Love, peace and stuff like that are not arguments.

void elves serve the void AKA the shadow
they cant approach the sunwell

alliance elves, most of them, hate blood elves
alliance elves marry humans and have babibes with them
this is not reality with metis peoplé

Elves are basically not pro merging with other races.

void elves and high elves are in the alliance, enemies of the horde.

Silvermoon is a Horde City , devs will never change the statement of a faction historical city.

there is actual pvp / pve achievement to kill lortemar teron.
Do yoiu think devs will allow alliance elves and other alliance player to walk like tourist or welcome people in the city ? No

High elves used tgo love use magic even with addiction, are conservative, dont merge with other race, etc etc

void elves are not
alliance elves are not

Blood elves dont want this reunification.

take another place and build another city.

Like Jaina and alliance high elves said during dalaran purge

“Dalaran is a better place without your kind”

We dont want traitors and people who participate in a genocide with the murderer blond mage waifu.

SILVERMOON IS A BETTER PLACE WITHOUT YOUR KIND

Yeah they are ticking time bombs
The Void made World Souls go nuts (at least one, Telegrus and Azeroth herself is few a cards short of a full deck), twisted the mind of a Dragon Aspect and his kind and scared the hell out of Sargeras to the point he prefered an empty universe over a void corrupted one
And ate worlds for breakfast - case in point the Etheral’s home world and many others
So feeble Elven minds resisting the Whispers?
Uhm… suuuuuuure
BUT they are not that different from the Shadow priests…

This is actually a misconception
Alerria when approached the Sunwell portals opened and Void beasties attacked but it later turned out it was the part of that corrupted Ethereal’s plot
Again, it is canon the Elves have priests and they have shadow priests and dabling with a void is not an uncharted territory for them - remember those blood elves turning in to void walkers in Outland?
So having your own set of cultists who not even make the Well flicker and a whole order of Blood Knights who happly munched on a Naaru until it became Dark not really the best place for a moral high ground
We all know it was Rommath vs Umbric enmity, it was because politics those researchers left

Except when Lor’themar Theron almost jumped ship to return to the Alliance you mean?
Just Garrosh happened
The Blood Elves are not that keen to be in the Horde
I mean why would they?
Trolls - ancient enemies (but they are DarkSpears not amani! Yeah, who cares, really?)
Orcs - who invaded Azeroth and sieged Silvermoon with teaming up with the Amani
Goblins - who supllied the two aboive with weapons and intel during the wars
Tauren - “beast men” but they are at least okay even if they are buddy buddy with the Orcs
Undead - no coment
Pandaren - lets pretend they exist, okay they are cool
Dracthyr - we have soooo good history with violent scallies
Vulpera - the only race they probably tolerate
Nightborne - They should not be the horde either, but yeah, they are cool

So you see it really not that a surpise they would want an Elven reunification, be in the alliance or at least be neutral with the Twin Kingdoms of Suramar and Qual’thalas… :roll_eyes:

Still it probably will never happen, best case scenario is Silvermoon becomes like Telogrus, open for everyone to visit

Yeah, I think there will be Dalaran elves (Vereesa, Aethas…) joining the Midnight reunification, now the Silver Covenant and the Sunreavers are united with the Kirin Tor, there is no more conflict between these two groups.:revolving_hearts:

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I would really like to hear your comment on the forsaken tho.

They never did anything to the bloodelves they even helped them fight the scourge.

I don’t know the official lore stance on what the bloodelves think of the forsaken but if they don’t like them cause they resemble the scourge the that’s lazy writing.

The Forsaken is a complicated mater
They are more like a sub-faction than an actual race - many tend to forget this crutial thing
The Forsaken are not just rotting humans
Officially the Forsaken are the umbrella term for undead humans, undead Elves aka. Darkfallen, Banshees, Skeletons, Abominations, Wraiths, Geists, Zombies, Ghouls, Gargoyles and even Leper gnomes and Val’kyr (and the thing about the skeletons and abominations and other not that inteligent undeads? They not really give a ratts behind who they consume and kill, when someone gives the order they march)
I think even a Lich is there somewhere (and I’m sure a few undead dwarves are there too who been in the wrong place in the wrong time, maybe a few wandering orcs and trolls even or anything that been raised)
The point is, they are mini-scourge essentially in the eyes of many and… it is not just prejudice
Sure everyone is an individual, but the truth is the Forsaken were a personality cult of Sylvanas and they did terrible and horrendous things, things the Scourge did with glee
When your battle cry is “Death to the Living” your living comrades porbably will treat you the rotting corpse you are
Now of course the main criterion to be a Forsaken is to be undead who broke away from the Scourge
So they were Scoruge members, all of them ,except the ones who were later dragged back from the deserved afterlife, but lets say 80% of them ex-Scoruge
Most of the Forsaken been there and sieged Quel’thalas
Not all of them of course and they “did against their will” but they did it
When your family and friends were torn apart by the unholy undead you develop a nice PTSD when it comes to anything moving and dead
Actually it is not bad writing it is completly understandable and well documented; if your people were persecuted and mass murdered by another group of people you will hate them even after the conflict was over - especially if you are an Elf with a very long lifespan to hold grudges

Are blood elves and alliance high elves enemies or allies?

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Blood Elves and Alliance High Elves are generally considered enemies, but the relationship is a bit complex.

Here’s a breakdown:

  1. Blood Elves: The blood elves (or Sin’dorei) were once part of the high elves but became a distinct group after the fall of Quel’Thalas and the destruction of the Sunwell by the Scourge. In the aftermath, many of the high elves who survived had to turn to darker methods, particularly tapping into demonic magic, to survive and later join the Horde. The blood elves are mainly aligned with the Horde and have a strained relationship with the Alliance due to this alliance with the Horde and their dark past.
  2. Alliance High Elves: High elves, or Quel’dorei, are the remnants of the ancient elven race who remained loyal to the Alliance. They are generally seen as more noble, preserving the old ways and maintaining a more cautious and restrained approach to magic. Their numbers have significantly dwindled since the fall of Quel’Thalas, and they have primarily aligned themselves with the Alliance, particularly in recent expansions.

Relationship Between Blood Elves and Alliance High Elves:

  • Historically, the blood elves and high elves were the same group. However, after the blood elves joined the Horde, the two groups drifted apart, with the blood elves choosing darker paths for survival.
  • There is some tension and animosity between the two, as the high elves see the blood elves as traitors for joining the Horde and abandoning their kin, while the blood elves may view the high elves as hypocritical or too idealistic.

In World of Warcraft lore, the two groups are not outright at war but are not friendly either. There have been moments of cooperation in certain quests and storylines, but on the whole, their ideological differences and alliances with the opposing factions (Horde vs. Alliance) keep them at odds.

No friendship with alliance pets

Too bad for you that Metzen himself referred to “uniting the scattered elven tribes”.
Guess you will be utterly disappointed when Midnight comes.

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The problem with Chat GPT it is… Chat GPT and uses unreliable sources or outright decanonized materials like the d20 WoW RPG

Purely from WoW Halduron Brightwing and Tae’thelan Bloodwatcher have expressed no particular grudge or strong feelings towards the quel’dorei remnants; the former has referred to the elven race collectively as the “children of Silvermoon,” while the latter has outright stated his intention to free the elves from their addiction, and unite them as the proud race they once were
Lor’themar Theron and Halduron even allowed the High Elves access to the Sunwel and treated them as honored guests while on their piligrimage, like how he treated Alleira a Hero

He never said "we will rebuild Silvermoon for alliance high elves " or “Silvermoon will be a neutral city”

To bad for you its gonna be only about story questline with partnership for kill the big bad guy of the expansion

This “uniting the scattered elven tribes” will certainly be composed of horde/alliance elves and also neutral elves.

Neutral elves = neutral capital at Midnight :raised_hands:

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That might be right but why does that need to equal to silvermoon must be that hub?

Build a new one if you so desperately want an nice little fanfic elven paradise. For all I care for it non elves to go there but leave existing city’s alone

The shock after the desillusion in summer is gonna be so violent for high elves enjoyers

They even not prepared in the case of they is gonna be no playable high elves as usual.

And the announcement saying Silvermoon is revamped and thats all

“Muuuh? High elves where”

Shakim : " duuuh why Silvermoon still a horde city??!"

I m already preparing popcorn and tons of meme

Silvermoon has a 99% chance to become the Elf Sanctuary at Midnight.

Don’t worry, it will still be a Horde capital but it will be accessible to the Alliance.:kissing_heart:

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