Quel’dorei High Elves as an Alliance allied race - 2024 (Part 1)

Well it’s a 50/50 chance. It either becomes neutral or it doesn’t.
That would be different if we had metzen say something like: “when in midnight the elves reunite we will see them repurpose one of there ancestral homes to serve as a hub to fight the void”
Then it would be 99% sure that it will happen. And in that case I would not argue against it since it’s like fighting windmills trying to change that since it’s palnes years ahead.

But I would certainly demand that all alliance players need to wear a silly head while in silvermoon.

I mean can’t we find a solution that makes everyone happy?
Why not use the somewhat destroyed part that the scourge destroyed?
Rebuild it use it as a hub horde keeps current silvermoon everyone’s happy

I would like to adress something to some “blood elves” that I see sometimes.

Blood elves have long ears, not short/medium.

If your ears are not LONG then you re not a blood elve, you re an abomination with a human parent.

Be proud of your LONG and beautiful ears, brothers and sisters. Ears that humans and dwarves (alliance high elves’s friends and masters) mock on us so many times compaired us as swines and donkeys.

Stop using short/medium ears size. Get some help.

I have to confess my wl uses short ears.

But he also only is a bloodelfe cause I was fed up from blizz not giving my undead a straight back which makes robes and back accessories look stupid

So your warlock belong to alliance betrayers and his/her father married a human paladin.

disgusting :elf:

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Well yeah disgusting but from a RP perspective it could be a liviing descend from my long dead forsaken.

In that sense when I changed him from forsaken to half bloodelfe I just jumpt in the family tree

Not a statement. You can read it in chronicles volume 3.

Understandable for when lets say a book claims there’s a castle but ingame all you see is a tent and campfire, but this isn’t a case of a book claiming there’s a castle where you in game seeing there’s a tent.

Nowhere in the blood elf starting quest zone is it implied that Blood Elves, or your player character even, consumes fel. One of the quests in the starting zone is even about teaching you mana management through manatap and arcane torrent so you can fend for yourself in a post sunwell world (until it got repaired, which was a shame, belves are cooler without a sunwell, I hope it gets blown up in midnight again). Manatap to claim the mana from your surroundings and arcane torrent to discharge to prevent going wretched from overconsumption of mana

Its an undisputed trace of them being exposed to fel magic
Consumption leads to what you’d see in the felblood elves of Outland, the ones hardly distinguishable from demons so to say.

I can counter that as easily by saying its lame to expect other people to do your research for you and arrogant to expect you can treat people a if they’re your secretary, but fine for the sake of arguement consider this a freeby:

There were two main reasons, one reason is, the blood elves actually couldn’t hold the tide against the undead, The forsaken, lead by former ranger general Sylvanas were sent to Quel’thalas to help stem the tide, without those forsaken the Blood Elves would not have made it. This is also one of the main reasons why they joined the Horde, Sylvanas outright told them join the horde or you lose my support and that would’ve meant the end of the blood elves.

The second reason was them regaining the ability to wield the light again through a captured naaru called M’uru, Magisters drained the Naaru of light and bestowed it on those who could wield it in combat. The Blood Knights under the lead of Liadrin were founded shortly after iirc and they wielded the stolen light of the Naaru. They also did a lot of questionable things you wouldn’t expect from conventional paladins (the blood knight master quest which gave you the tabard and epic mount was literally go burn the church in stratholme to prove we’re better at wielding the light then the alliance paladins are)

Wielding stolen light is different then wielding true light, though. It seemed harmful for its wielders to wield (which was the explanation to the original blood elf paladin exclusive seal of Blood added extra damage to attacks at the cost of HP of the paladin). This regaining of the light also allowed them to fight back much more efficiently against the undead.

These two reasons are the main contributors to Quel’thalas not being overrun by scourge and unless you were a warlock you were not consuming fel.

Unless an elf was part of an actual class that wielded Fel (warlocks mostly, maybe the occasional blood mage but the only overlap they really have with warlocks is destructive fire magic, not fel)

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Also, as Lorcathar/Erevien stated, the split between high elf and blood elf happened before Kael’thas went to outland to even discover fel as an alternative option, Fel has nothing to do with it again.

Kael’thas tried to rename their people to the Blood Elves to honour the loss of their bretheren to the Scourge. The High Elves that didn’t go along with this and remained high elves did so for varying reasons but by and large because they felt Kael’thas had failed them, as he was absent during the scourge invasion, he was in Dalaran either for diplomacy or studying magic I don’t remember the why exactly and this also happens before the warcraft 3 campaign of KT in which he is informed of fel as an alternative by Illidan.

Or Blizzard returns to the old bfa, WOD or even MOP tradition of giving both sides their own hub during the events. Which happened before. Actually the void elves can use the land north of Stratholme while Silvermoon finally gets a proper revamp. That would be the best solution without showing blood elf fans the middle finger.

Yes. The breakup had all to do with politics not magic. Kael’thas thought the alliance can’t help them while the high elves didn’t want to break their bonds with humanity. And fel consumption wasn’t a large thing and only the diehard lyoalists of the Sunking did it in the end. Because if they did it like the Orcs had in the past they would have become actual demons instead of just the green eyes. BLOOD elves was chosen as new name to honor the blood that was spilled by the scourge which is one of two reasons their new color was red in the end.

You know what just take the damn blood elves, they should have been alliance from the start anyways and be done with this annoying topic already!

If you give entitled kids what they demand they will keep asking for more. It was never about the race otherwise they would have shut up at the point when void elves could look normal. They want Silvermoon too and an apology from Blizzard for breaking from the blue team. We are here to keep them in their place.

That’s nonsensical.
Void elves are not high elves; their fantasy is completely different.
If I make a void elf and use high elf looks, that’s one thing, but it will still have void elf lore and racials; turning me dark blue in combat for instance: Not something that would happen to a high elf.

So while I’m not a high elf fanatic whatsoever - I can definitely understand why ‘just getting a few appearances’ is not enough for someone who wants to play an actual high elf.

This is not the topic at hand. You make something up which doesn’t match reality. And that reality is that Moontear and the troll shaman aggressivley demand Silvermoon to switch colors because they feel entitled to it. READ the actual comments.

I’m not going to read through almost 2000 posts.

I made a general statement, which is clear as to what it is I’m saying.
Take it or leave it: Doesn’t matter to me.

The majority of high elf fans gave up and took the deal from Blizzard. My own server had a huge high elf migration after bfa. It is literally only those two above left who still ask for more stuff. And they revive the thread every 29 days.

Actually Blood Elves are renamed High Elves
But if we want to be really technical the Void Elves are indeed ex-Blood Elves

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It is literally the same race. There are no biological differences between them. They have normal eyes with a magical glow above it. The only thing to keep them apart is their allegiance. One is Horde the other is alliance. That’s it. Ion already said it. Blood elves are High elves. You don’t stop being a human just because you move to a different country.

So hide the thread if it bothers you that much?

I know all that: But they don’t have the fantasy of an actual high elf race.
No fitting racials. No fitting lore. And void-options and skills and procs that make no sense for an actual high elf.
So all-in-all void elves are a very poor substitution for alliance players.

I’ve said this before, but Blood Elves should have never been a thing.
The reason they were added was purely to give the horde a ‘pretty’ race and that’s just lame. Blood Elves should have remained High Elves and they should have returned to the alliance. Draenei should never have been a thing and horde should have received Ogres as a playable race.

WoW would be in a much better place then, imo.

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I think one of the reasons people say take the void elves and be quite is cause 9 out of 10 if these high elve posts start with hey we would really like highelves to be a playable race, that the part I understand and support cause I too have a race I would die to get playable (arakkoa) but then it always sooner or later turns into.

“Btw give silvermoon thx bye”

And that is just annoying. And I think we should never ignore those people and just let them yapp cause then they have a nice echo chamber where it looks like there opinion is unchallenged and they just get more people to think.the same

Yeah, I get that that is annoying and not realistic.

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Blood elves were a thing even as far back as Warcraft 3. Breaking with the alliance gave them agency beyond being sidekicks to the human faction. That is why Blizzard did it.

Why?

Please consider playing their starting zone instead of parroting what the high elf fans say.

Petty much the whole argument for the past 500 posts.