It matches my recollection as well. Didn’t exactly play since BFA after the absolute lie about the grey vs grey conflict was revealed but kept in touch with the lore. Didn’t exactly stick though considering we’re in 2025 and the demands now are to go further
I think that’s mostly due to the story setting of Midnight. If there ever was a time to add new stuff to Quel’dorei, Sin’dorei or Ren’dorei - it would be in the coming expansion, Blizzard said that they want to tie new features to the story settings. So of course, since we’re about to return to Quel’Thalas, people return and are vocal about their wishes, no matter if HE, VE or BE. 
As I said, in my opinion, all these arguments about “preserving the race fantasy” don’t really land anymore, since they have already softened so many of these defining traits.
Hell, I just played with the Haranir customization and took a look at Harandar - the Haranir are basically what the Night Elves could (or should) have been in their “original” description - tree Elves, stereotypical “guardians of nature” that use roots for their magic. No one will every “out-druid” this race. 
How is it hyperbole? You and the rest of your clique are predisposed to minimise every other concern everyone else has.
If there is such a thing as Lightforged Draenei Warlocks, then a Void Elf Paladin isn’t too outlandish. Wielding a power is distinct from embodying the power, and racials are intrinsic to that embodiment. Probably goes all the way back to the fact Forsaken Priests could use holy magic.
No that is naivety. Should Alliance High Elves be added, they will inevitably say they are the true High Elves and point to the name to prove it. The core fantasy of the Blood Elves is the evolution of Warcraft’s High Elf plotline, and it shouldn’t be appropriated by atavistic throwbacks.
You mean where we pointed out the division was over the siphoning of mana from living beings, that the fel crystals were not known by the majority of the population, that the fel energies gave the Blood Elves the equivalent of a suntan and we have developer confirmation that the fel energies have faded with the restoration of the sunwell (hence blue and golden eyes returning) and, dory like, our opponents retain none of this information and simply go on about fel corruption again?
Constantly. I mean I always thought that if a point was throughly refuted in an argument you move on but it turns out the real secret is to forget you’ve been corrected, repeat the lie, then when you are told again in greater detail accuse the other person of being pedantic.
Aside from the part that it lacks consistency (and always has).
Back in the RTS and Vanilla WoW, the Light was marketed as the counterpart to unholy/death and fel magic, they were forces that opposed each other. Demons being exorcised by it, Undead being weakened by it. It was also said that the use of fel magic necessarily corrupts its user in a demonic way, that’s why it was frowned upon.
Now, years later, we have a Forsaken Light-wielder who doesn’t get tired to tell us that it hurts, but not damages him to use the Light. We have all these wild class-race combinations that don’t really seem to fit their “race fantasy”, but still are playable.
We have Alleria and Turalyon, who once weren’t even able to touch each other because of their opposing magics, the Sunwell that reacted to the Void… and now we’re about to get Void Elf paladins. Of course, you can keep bending and evading like Neo and try to make sense of it in a way that doesn’t support my argument that the “race fantasy” is already all over the place in many cases, but the only real fact is:
If Blizzard wants to implement a feature, they adjust the story to make it possible; last seen with the Void Demon Hunter and the Arathi Half-Elves.
And what would be the problem if they did? Is it that storywise, they would still be a minority and would have to deal with Quel’Thalas still being under Blood Elf control? Or is it, that you could no longer gate-keep in this case who qualifies as a “true” High Elf?
Are we talking about story concerns or player concerns here?
Is it really that hard for you to understand that people are (with logical arguments or only individual, nostalgia-based wishes) keep hoping for Alliance High Elves, when Blizzard is deliberatly keeping the option on the table? I mean, it’s absolutely fine to disagree with the HE crowd - I even agree that some of us have very strange opinions and are asking for way too much.
Hence, I’ll try one last time to find common ground with you, please, take off the faction glasses for just a moment:
Can we at least agree that it’s weird that Blizzard doesn’t bring the Quel’dorei story to an end by merging them with VE or BE once and for all? That it’s kind of irritating to give the alliance HE fans a compromise, but keep dangling their original wish in front of their faces, just out of their reach, but still featured in every other story?
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Yeah shame from what little I’ve heard and read the setting means jack because we’re having a continuation of Windrunner Family story with almost no involvement from Blood Elves. High Elves got a compensation prize for losing Dalaran and their leader is footnote in Arator’s story. For the Elven Expansion we sure get freaking shafted
I woudn’t read too much into the leveling campaign. Who knows what they have planned for the actual story on maxlevel? I just really, really, really, really hope that we will see more proactive Horde characters. I am a huge fan of Turalyon and Alleria, but ffs, enough with the Alliance centered storytelling already. 
If they don’t involve Calia, her lightforged Undead and the Forsaken’s decay problem in this expansion, I swear, I’m starting a r(i)ot. In the story, it’s been over twelve years since they mentioned that they Forsaken would eventually rot away.
Considering in TWW we followed Bronzebeards, Anduin and his new crush and Alleria and in the Max Level Story we still mainly followed Anduin, his Arathi Crush and Alleria with only one small role for Thrall and small role for Voss. After that surprisingly very not Horde coded Undermine and Back to Alleria…
Which means I hold little to no hope that Midnight will be much better.
Just like in the HE topic, hope dies last 
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Just give us High Elves already been more than 20 years lmao
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So long as blizzard keeps fueling it.
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You’re taking it out of context here.
They’re saying things that are tied to races and classes that can be playable, or that already exist in Azeroth.
- Housing items tied to core fantasies of a player’s race or class, or that already exist in Azeroth, won’t be sold in the shop. Thematically important decor that players know and love will also not appear in the shop.
They’re not saying that Blood Elves have the thematic monopoly on everything Thalassian, for example. That wasn’t what the post was about, nor what respecting core fantasies mean.
It’s about players being able to obtain things that exist in the world, in the world, whereas the hearthsteel items will intentionally be made to be thematically vague as to not withhold anything that would fit with the players characters.
For example:
In my case: The fantasy of my character is an exiled High Elf (Thalassian Elf on Alliance made possible with Void Elves and their extra customization), who is a Ranger (Hunter class), and comes from Quel’thalas. (World).
Things made playable by Blizzard, as if it exists in the world, where players can interact with it as an organic part of it, that’s core fantasy.
This is why I said:
A lot of the Hearthsteel Cherryblossom items look like they could be from Pandaria, ie the World.
They’re not thematically vague enough, imo.
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I believe we’ve had examples in-game of Forsaken dying off and degenerating into Ghouls/Zombies. I know there’s one in Classic Tirisfall. Safe to assume that it is dependant on the individual corpse, rather than a rule overall.
It’s also not an issue that is restricted to Undead, but rather that WoW in general has an issue with characters being way too old by this point. Take Danath being 70+ but still on the frontlines for some reason. Though Undead certainly are the most glaring, since they’re a race that has no means of reproducing, has a presumably lesser lifespan than normal Humans overall, and doesn’t have the Val’kyr.
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What the Eredar did makes the Orcs doings pale in comparison. You have no room to judge us anymore as long as literal demons who destroyed thousands of worlds are your allies.
I think you’re a bit confused.
We weren’t talking about that.
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You see the Silver Covenant trash talking the blood elves for having a tiny slipper of fel magic on them is quite hypocritcal when Eredar are basically 100% demons. The bias of Blizzard who try their best to shame the Horde at every step couldn’t be more obvious.
You’re confused, we weren’t talking about that.
But I’ll still answer you:
Yes, the penitent are 100% demons, but they’re a vast minority and they aren’t actively living in Alliance cities.
The penitent Eredar are outcasts who have lowkey ties with Velen’s Draenei, who are the official Alliance members. The Eredar themselves aren’t official members, it’s all rather unofficial and by association.
They will never be accepted into Alliance society as a whole, the penitent Eredar don’t even believe they deserve to be forgiven. They just want to do what they can to make amends from the shadows.
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I wish they’d introduce more severity into the game as a whole. “show, don’t tell”-Runas style.
But I guess this is a problem that extends to everything Blizzard writes these days, it’s all very handholdy and safe.
It is weird how sidelined Blood Elves feel as a whole. I get that narratively it’s good to connect the threads between expansions, but as it’s already been said: Arator is like an amalgamation of all the bad tropes we’ve had the past expansions.
I wish they would’ve included Salandria as his travel companion, or something.
I’m glad Arator is getting some spotlight, but it’s all very on the nose and kinda… lame?
And his story is all over the place. It’s so confusing when there’s retcons and/or deliberate vagueness inserted into the story.
I think everyone’s getting kinda sick of the Windrunner soap opera. 
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Well the Alliance has the Army of the Light and the Void Specialists. Thats why it seems they are at the forefront of the expansion. Blame Blizzard writing.
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the void elves shouldn’t be the protagonists of a mainline Horde zone ever. This is just beyond unfair when the people who live in the region play no role in the story. Blizzard is obsessed with alliance elves.
This is not true. Mate the faction capital just got updated. Enjoy it.
Yeah you gotta share for gameplay and story purposes. Its not a big deal