The Holy Sunwell is Vatican City! 
Although Rome is not half destroyed…not yet 
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Your analysis is correct
But I always saw them similar to House of Borgia - and they were Spanish-Aragonese
Tho indeed, there are some Medici and Sforza similarities too 
There’s one simple reason I don’t think there was much Alliance loyalty to begin with…
I think Umbric is lying… At least partially…
- He has every reason to lie.
- His words and actions don’t add up. If he was loyal he could have gone straight to the Alliance after being exiled, but he didn’t.
I’m sure his views could have changed, after seeing the Horde exile them and Alliance accept them, I’m sure he’d be more fond of the Alliance.
But that they always had Alliance leanings, is something I don’t believe. If he claims it, I think he’s lying to ingratiate himself with his new allies.
That is to say I don’t believe he’s untrustworthy, I just think he’s laying it on a little thick.
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The fact some brainlets are saying Horde got High elves is proof they never understood a thing lol.
A Thalassian living in Silvermoon while calling himself a High elf can’t even expect to be treated with dignity.
I mean, the names have meanings behind them, it’s not like Blood elves call themselves like that because they are vampires or something LOL
Literally, too many people talking about things they don’t know.
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And a bleached Void Elf is still a Void Elf.
Glad we agree.
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Its not about what we call ourselves. Its a matter of principles. While many people are OK with alliance getting a copy of us, its fine to remind people the Sin’dorei are the true heirs of Quel’dorei legacy. Not the traitors on the alliance who go by with scraps and commit kinslaying and have not contributed in any way to advancement of their nation and country and if for them, the race would have gone extinct. You can play as them, but its good to be reminded of this and where you belong. Even if they call themselves “high elves”, a reference to a bygone age these people have nothing in common with anymore.
Elisande said it better than me.
The void elves are the future, something all remaining high elves will evolve into as well, because high elves are weak and pathetic and have no goal or real path to follow.
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I quite agree with this sentiment.
Any elf from Quel’thalas who still calls themselves High Elves are not worthy of any dignity or any respect and deserves nothing but execution. The Quel’lithien High Elves should be given a free pass though had they been alive due to their past contributions to retaking Eversong Woods and the Ghostlands.
Who cares about all that? Oh yes, you.
Stop being pedant.
I think you may have mistaken your response, it makes no sense to answer such thing to what I said.
Maybe you need a professional to look into that problem of yours.
I don’t care you agree or not, I don’t need a brick text of yours just for people reading here to be aware of your opinion for the 5000th time.
Stop thinking this is an academical/political debate or whatever, it’s the likes of you who made the threads insufferable on many sites, your opinion is not that important as to going around telling everyone they don’t deserve and shouldn’t ask for a damn character option in a videogame when the request and the basis for it is so simple and easy to understand that it begs the question about what kind of problem you and those who act that way have.
Well, nothing matters anymore, these meatheads with a gargantuan need for attention will just have to shut the hell up and swallow the reality that people will be able to play as High elves now.
What?
The whole request for high elves has been pedantic from the beginning. You can’t get more pedantic than eye color, because for all intents and purposes high elves were already playable and the difference between high elves and blood elves is a pedantic one.
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You forget the fact that High elves have been in the Alliance all this time, that’s bigger than the eye colors that, honestly, were only an issue because of entitled Blood elf players thinking that getting those would be some kind of conquest against playable High elves.
Just get it right.
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Not at all. If you’re going to go around and pretend that the Void Elf you’re playing is a High Elf and indeed not a Void Elf with all of the pros and cons that come with that then by that same measure your cannot turn around and tell Horde players what their elves may or may not identify themselves as.
Anything else would expose your rank hypocrisy and we wouldn’t want that now would we.
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I hope you can forgive me if I don’t give a damn about your sad attempt at holding a grudge.
People can now play a High elf, the same way people will be able to play a Wildhammer Dwarf and others to play a Mag’har from Outland or one that has been always in Orgrimmar, maybe an ex-Kor’kron or whatever they want.
Sorry if it bugs you that people are able to enjoy the game world and it’s lore the way they wanted to do for a long time.
You mad bro?
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So basically pedantic. Because at its core, they are the same people, its only minor details that separate the two.
Pedantic: excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous.
So before calling someone a pedant, a mirror can be your friend. The above sentence basically describes the vast majority of high elf fans.
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Sure but my point is that both factions now can roleplay as it.
Nothing more.
High Elf fans always wanted exclusivity, which is why many of them are now seeing both factions getting it as a loss, or going through a denial like a certain someone and think heir reskin void elf is more of a “high elf” than an actual high elf living in Silvermoon.
I guess they are going to need a pat on the shoulder the next time their kind void corrupts raptor eggs.
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Maybe you should accept you have a low IQ and move on.
You literally called something explained in a very broad way as pedantic, that’s not very smart.
Your point is to try to hold people into discussing and creating another point of contention because sadly you have created some personality around being antagonistic to the topic.
And that’s sad.
How can I be mad at someone who thinks his personal opinions and views are so important as to always be there to repeat how much he thinks his own opinions and views are superior and have more priority than the others?
What I am is sorry to see someone so deluded with his own ego.
This phrase literally proves how little you know and how delusional you are, since it was entitled Blood elf players who wanted to maintain the pity sense of exclusivity you talk about.
I really hope you can fix these personal problems of yours.
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You implied that Horde players cannot or should not call themselves High Elves for whatever reason.
I’m just saying that if Void Elf players are allowed to create their own personal headcannon from these customizations then Blood Elves have every right to do the very same thing despite the contradicting game mechanics that are inherent in both playable races.
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Not taking sides in this grudge match here… So I’m not arguing against or for anything in this discussion.
But I’d just like to point out that as long as the game runs on a “Two Faction” system, then allegiance isn’t pedantic.
It’s not a minor detail, it’s pretty major.
Well, there’s nothing really stopping a Blood Elf from calling himself a High Elf if that’s what he wants… But I don’t see why he would?
Even if he has blue eyes it’s not like he can’t be a Blood Elf after all.
And the name “High Elf” was just a label the ones who refused to align themselves with Silvermoon clung to. To differentiate themselves from the Blood Elves, since they are identical in all respects then a name is the only difference they could have.
Edit: Compiled it into one post, no need for two.
Majority of good Blood elf roleplayers (depending on context ofc) will shame the roleplayer who calls his character High elf, since it’s disrespectful lorewise.
You only prove to not know the lore by saying these things, ergo, you don’t know what you are talking about.
Wait, so let me get this straight.
You say that it’s headcanon that someone can take a Void elf, use the new customization options that make them look like the High elves that have been existing in the Alliance for damn ages, and then say they are playing a High elf, thing that is part of their faction, but even have been seen alongside the Void elves?
This is beyond having low IQ, this is pure delusion from your part. It’s as if you tell that to someone who is playing a Mag’har orc and he says it is from Outland or whatever that is not the alternative universe.
Maybe, and just maybe, (But you should -really- consider this): Stop being so pity, arrogant and ignorant. People don’t care about your stupid ego and what dumb crap you come up with to say they are playing ‘wrong’.
It’s a shame that anyone here has considered you a serious person for at least half a second, but I put the blame on them for acting as if you have been someone reasonable with good takes and ideas.
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