You’re the main ogre in this thread 
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so where are your arguments?
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That survey literally mentioned them as an option for Classic+, which we know they are building and which will probably be the big event at Blizzcon 2026.
If they are announced for Classic+ I wish them well, that isn’t retail and thus not the main timeline universe. At best it’s an alternate timeline, and in lore alternate timelines seem to have different degrees of substantiveness but none are solidly real.
But if a High Elf in Classic+ is enough then enjoy Classic+, though if their presence in another game is enough I am wondering why their existence in Lord of the Rings Online right now is not enough.
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In fairness, I thought two was enough. I have never been a fan of the Allied race system and would have much preferred if BFA had instead given us two new races, who likely would have been Kul Tiran for the Alliance (just say they have Drust blood) and Vulpera for the Horde.
Most of the ‘allied races’ could have been implemented as origins or expanded customisations for existing races.
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Why do you talk like that? It’s an unsual way of framing the debate when the reason it has spiked again was that there was an expectation that they COULD (not necessarily that they WOULD) be announced for Midnight given Midnight is set in Quel’thalas, there was the potential for a Horde counterpart in Forest Trolls, and the sense that if they were ever going to do it now would be the time.
Instead they added the Haronir, have pushed the Void Elves forward at every opportunity and the best you have heard about the Alliance High Elves is that they will have ‘some’ presence which not one person thought wasn’t going to happen. Particularly as Veressa will probably show up…and there’s a very good chance she will BE the High Elf presence.
But they aren’t going to ‘soon’ become a reality. I remember folks predicting they’d be added in Warlords of Draenor and here we are 12 years later and still no sign of them. ‘Soon’ is clearly ‘Blizzard’ soon, i.e. before the onset of the next ice age.
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Ok sure, that’s the technical reason, to “honour the fallen”
But from a logical standpoint, if “blood elves are high elves” why change the name in the first place? wouldn’t there be a more logical case to say “I’m a high elf” to continue the legacy? There’s continuity in saying “I’m a quel’dorei” even if you resort to mana tapping and, in Kael’thas’ case, joining up with the Legion. But no, there was a rebrand, and there were people who disagreed with that rebrand and decided to stay with the original branding, leading to a schism.
It got to a point where the High Elves in the lodges refused to return to silvermoon.
Give me pygmies now!
Sure, why not? There’s not race idea that I’d be against. Hell, if there’s people who want playable kobolds I’d be for it.
It really doesn’t matter if it makes sense or not
That is the fact of the matter regardless of how nonsense it is.
But its not so much the name that caused elves to leave, it was the mana draining of living creatures to starve off their addiction.
but basically as you said, the largest group rebranded because elves are very dramatic creatures and smaller group didn’t.
But most of their differences were made null after TBC because the Sunwell was restored and the blood elves didn’t need to drain mana from creatures anymore.
They remain apart mostly because the high elves are grumpy over getting kicked out of their home by the region lord for not partaking in mana vampirism.
Edit: if you wanna be really detailed about it, the high elves from the lodges were less addicted to the magic well water than their city dwelling kin.
which is in part why they didn’t turn into wretches.
So the biggest difference between the two elves is how effected they are if the well were to go boom again.
To be honest, it wasn’t just the High Elf exiles who were less addicted, because you still had High Elf Mages, loyal to the Kirin Tor/Theramore/Alliance who were very much addicted and this is where the whole premise for “Arcane meditating” came in.
It was the Farstriders in general, both Blood Elves and High Elves who were the least addicted to the Arcane magics of the Sunwell, in general.
Of course, they relied on the powers of the Well to give them added bonuses, such as when Talanas, Lireesa and Alleria used Thas’dorah and Arcane arrows shot out from the bow…but they weren’t as addicted as the Magisters and Arcanists who dwelled within Silvermoon.
Blizzard will add the 3rd faction - Kingdom of Elves - where all void, high and blood elves will reunite and will act neutral towards both, the Horde and the Alliance (as they did for many, so many years after the Highborne exile and before Arthas’ events).
Most of their existence all Quel’dorei always joined the factions that benefited their current situation.
And then hopefully we will all get rid of this elven nonsense.
No my friend.
Quel’dorei join alliance only for 3 years during dark portal event because its was a common help and benefit
Quel’dorei with blood elves live in the horde since 14 years.
The alliance presence is a grain of sand in the entire beach
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this thread is still going on? People can’t take NO as an answer i guess.
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Again as I said, most of their existence (as the main race Quel’dorei) they were living separted from anyone.
Honestly, that is a possible theory for this “elven reunification,” that elvenkind simply leaves both factions and members can join the Alliance and Horde as they please
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That is correct.
Blizzard has no reason to add another race that would be identical to blood elves just with a different name plate.
There’s a common argument that High Elves would detract from the Blood Elf identity, but I think having a High Elves for the alliance would actually present a unique identity to give Blood Elves an identity of their own.
Some people on X prefer that Blood Elves were anti heroic and resorted to fel magics and mana tapping. Yes, the sunwell’s restoration has negated that, but even then, the Blood Elves have commandeered Golems from the Shadowlands to defend the sunwell. They still have that anti heroic pragmatism that separates them from their allianced aligned counterparts.
Also, the blood elves have dark ranger customisations if I recall correctly, and if I don’t, blood elf players are well within their rights to campaign for them, as well as San’layn and Felblood options.
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No they don’t. Put the NPCs next to each other. They look exactly the same, the high elves have lighter skin and blue eyes. And that is all.
Honestly, from afar, if it weren’t for the name tags, I can’t tell the difference between a void elf and a blood elf. Hell, I can’t tell the difference between a horde Pandaren/Dracthyr/Earthen from an alliance one. And I’m pretty sure the same can be said of the Haranir
the high elves have lighter skin and blue eyes. And that is all.
Is that an admission that there is a biological difference between high elves and blood elves?
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that is just the NPCs. The playable model can be adjusted to look it out in both ways too. Blizzard says No. Accept that and move on.
The playable model can be adjusted
Exactly. That’s what happened with the Zandalari. There’s the argument that the Thalassian model has been done to death. Fine. Give high elves a new one, just as how they gave Zandalari and Amani new ones.
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