This has been said probably hundreds of times by now. It’s probably the most repeated phrase, from people who have no interest in actually following the debate. You assume there’s nothing else to be said.
At the moment, we’re mostly discussing possible racial abilities. We’re also discussing and coming up with increasingly better suggestions for how high elf playable models might look, that would keep them true to being high elves, while adding different flavours from the blood elves. Heritage armour is also being discussed, and new and modified ideas keep popping up.
And this, of course. Because you negatives are contributing to keeping this thread bumped. Thank you.
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“new and modified ideas keep popping up.”
i’ve been in this thread from the start, don’t bullsh*t me
Then why are you still here if you believe there is nothing new to be said?
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there is absolutely nothing new to say here,
i’m reading it because i was invested from the start, i was pro-HE now i’m anti-HE,
this thread is just a massive círclejerk where each waits for moontear, turiel, or retributer to comment #highelves2019 or something of that ilk
at this point the thread is no longer a proper discussion but more a stubborn tirade of comments that won’t abate til you get what you want
but as we see with children; crying about something endlessly doesn’t necessarily get you that thing
the best part is the vast- VAST majority of these comments are you guys attacking people for disagreeing with you
you get the irony of posting in a thread, just to tell other people not to post in the same thread right?
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did i tell people not to post?
i did not.
Anyway, I’m not going to justify why we keep posting here. If you don’t like it, don’t read it. Period.
Back on topic.
Have you guys already discussed the possibility of the racial “Meditation”? Something like faster resource regeneration. I think it would match pretty well the Alliance-aligned High Elf lore.
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the problem with all these HE racial ideas is that the HE are not different from the BE,
anything the HE can do the BE can do as well but with the added ability to siphon mana from living things
so meditation, item siphoning, etc are all things BE did/do
arcane torrent is no longer coupled with mana tap so the BE racial is a blast of mana(‘torrent’)
which HE would be able to do too
i’d like to see something with pets as a flavour racial, something like a % xp for pets, or a highr chance of capture, after all HE like their pets enought not to eat them.
vareesa orders the execution of the dragonhawks in dalaran during the purge
they’re not animal lovers as much as the next thalassian
I am not sure they did? Afaik Blood Elves did not meditate - they simply siphoned mana from living beings and then fel crystals and such. Maybe Brigante can enlighten us in this sense.
well vereesa is an single individual, i am tone deaf it doesn’t mean humans are not musically capable.
meditation is just a thing they did, more related to farstriders
but the HE didn’t do that to survive, they survived because they lived in dalaran(or they died in their lodges with very very few exceptions)
This is contrary to what I have always believed - could you please provide me with a source indicating this? Not that I doubt what you say, I just want to read this part of the lore carefully.
As someone who runs a Dragonhawk rider Guild, that quest had me raging when I did it on Alliance side…
I was like “We’re supposed to be the -bad- elves! What did the Dragonhawks ever do to you!”
I don’t like Meditation, as a racial, and I will explain why. If Arcane Torrent is to be replaced, it needs to be something with a combat bonus, so a buff (even if kicked in before combat) fits, Meditation lacks that punch. You wouldn’t be able to use it mid combat, and frankly, with the best will in the world. Resource regeneration is so quick as it is, that it would be a pretty meaningless racial for High Elves to have, “Whooh, I have to wait an extra second less before I can cast spells again! I’m so glad I am a High Elf!” Heh, you see what I mean… I just don’t think Meditation would pack enough punch for a Racial, in comparison to Arcane Torrent.
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there isn’t any to determine either point
in the shadow of the sun i think its briefly mentioned that they mana tapped items but i dont recall it being so that mediation was even a thing the thalassians did,
it was just an idea
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i prefer the idea of something similar to arcane torrent that is charged then activated by use of disenchating items(i think you mentioned something similar)
but the former pro-HE part of me would not accept any excessive differences between HE and BE,
because they’re the same
We know they did drain items, as ultimately, this is what actually killed off Quel’Lithien Lodge in EPL, the very one described in ‘The Shadow of the Sun’ an intensely powerful magic item that they drained, that turned them all (bar 3 survivors) Wretched. So yeah, they definitely Mana tapped items. Meditation seems to have been more a Farstrider thing, but then the Farstriders were described as the least effected by Mana withdrawal (Both Blood and High)
Every other racial than Arcane Torrent, I agree, Blood and High Elves should have exactly the same.
(Edited as I got the wrong ‘Quel’ and said ‘Quel’Danil’ originally 
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i had a look about an the only reference to meditation on the wiki type sites is regarding the kaldorei and moonwells
we can assume that invidivuals do mediatate in the same way real life humans do but its no staple of their racial identity
which to me is a good thing because the loss of the sunwell isn’t just something you can just meditate away
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As the Heavy in Team Fortress says “Cry some more!”
But seriously if the alliance had high elves I can guarantee so many Horde players would jump ship onto the Alliance.