Quickie: Horde's Reaction to Baine's Escape

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What value does a world tree have to an orc?

To your common Horde soldier, it was nothing but an enemy base.

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every rp character has access to wowwikki

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Bah, Good RP characters use WoWPedia

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my characters all know wowwiki is outdated

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I think it was more that it was a mass slaughter of countless civilians and an extremely drastic move. I don’t think it’s strange for some of the Horde members to dislike going that far. shrug

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I don’t know my friend. I just don’t know.

I assume that orcs are still being raised by shamans and are taught all of that junk, f. ex the stuff that Drek’thar taught Thrall about life/nature/whatever

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Faction war is a bad concept to make an expansion out of, and Blizzard (too little, too late) have realised this. It’s a stale and tiring thing when you can’t have meaningful change because the mechanics of an MMO with two main factions is there has to be equilibrium.

I can see the faction divide being severely perforated by the next expansion, the game is losing people, ageing badly and something new needs to be in really to keep interest. Breaking the faction barriers down and allowing players to do cross-faction activities with one another natively could pave the way for better storytelling as well.

So what could start with Baine escaping prison may in fact be the tip of a new revolutionary change in WoW.

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They should’ve made the faction war a bigger thing since Cataclysm (as they sort of did but then they’d forget it conveniently when they wanted), but never made it the main focus. Because, as Lukas says, you can never have a winner in an MMO. Even SoO wasn’t really a major victory for the Alliance. Neither was the Undercity.

Instead, it should just be a matter of the factions competing over various things but never outright trying to destroy one another imo, because then you get nonsense expansions like this.

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To me, the faction war felt better as a bonus, not as a focus.

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Absolutely this. It was cool as a fringe thing for smaller factions to go about

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So, we need more gReAtEr ThReAt?

You can have a faction war focus and still keep things fairly equal, factions can gain and lose zones, or even better Blizz could write a compelling war story.

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So, you’ve arrived. I was beginning to wonder when you would show yourself. I sent the parchment some time ago–I wasn’t sure if it had arrived.

But enough chatter… you’re here because you have been chosen: chosen to lead the spiritual lives of our people.

from orc shaman starter quest

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must feel like a bit of a chump right now

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Sounds good to me. The only reason why the great threat isn’t as good as it could be is because we are always shown to be completely dominating them left and right. If we’re would be shown to struggle more and actually lose before we can rebuild, it would be epic.

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It’s World of WARcraft, having the war be fringe is just bizarre, we clearly need that deep, exciting Light vs Void. :grimacing:

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I’m having a ripper time warring in nazjatar

where do our magics fit in bro…

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“If the writing were better, it’d be good.” you say as if that doesn’t exactly apply to LITERALLY EVERY POSSIBLE PLOTLINE including the faction war you so decry.

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Why does the war have to be about Alliance and Horde? We war with the Old Gods minions, with the Legion and so on, do we not?

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Yep, because it is a formula that works. What are the most popular expansions/patches of WoW?

Wrath of the Lich King - greater threat - through each patch even.

The Thunder King (5.2) - greater threat, also well controlled and actually fun faction conflict too.

Legion - greater threat, although the faction conflict there was being already awkwardly shoehorned in for no reason other than to satiate a loud minority of players.

Theoretically? Would be good. Mechanically? Blizzard won’t do this, too much investment of resources. Look at the Warfronts.

Also there’s the simple problem Blizzard’s writers have too many inbuilt biases when writing the faction conflict because they inevitably tilt to the Horde or Alliance. We have two main writers at least one of which is invariably a massive sylvanas fan who cannot see harm done to the necro waifu or the snarky undead self insert gary stu and the other has cannot stop gushing about how great Anduin is ALL the time.

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Wait, are you telling me that fighting against non-faction entities who want to dominate and/or destroy the world is not a war? :thinking:

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