Removing mid tier class format would balance the game out lot better

ESPECIALLY at the level most people asking this sort of question play at.

Ever since the corresponding achievements were introduced, every class and spec in the game has, in every season, achieved Curve /CE /Gladiator / .1%. So in teh right hands they can all perform well enough at the highest levels the game requires.

Howeer, the vast majorority of WoW Players will never set foot in a mythic raid or a key >10.

And at that level ofdifficulty and usually corresponding proficiency, you will almost universally gain more performance by learning the ABC mantra and trading your steering wheel in for a keyboard with WASD installed than you will from switching from Shadow to arcane mage or whatever is currently “bad” to currently “good” :wink:

If you´re not actively chasing high (currently >>15s) m+ score or HoF, tier lists could not be more irrelevant to your gaming situation and experience, aside from the borked mindset of meta slaves “needing” meta-blast0r Grps to perform in a +2 leading to problems getting invites.

The problem isn´t so much the system itself or even class balance, as wonky as it may be. The problem is, as usual and almost everywhere in life, “slightly undergifted” people that want the easiest ride they can get , so they buy dynamite to go fishing in a pond because Uncle Bob said it works like a charm, and then wonder why 6 months later there are no more fish to catch. :wink:

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I’d propose the same for certain forum posters

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Better listen to people who can’t press wasd properly during a boss fight.

Making the tiers yes, the reaction to it is entirely community driven and thats the problem.

Just because a class/spec isn’t “s tier” doesn’t mean it is bad or cannot perform.

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Aye. Even when overall class balance and accordingly diversity was arguably the best it ever was in recent memory (DF S1), there were still tier lists.

The sim difference between S tier and F tier was IIRC around 5%.

Take a wild guess who still had a “great” season because people in general have become wholly incapable of thinking for themselves and making their own experiences, but just regurgitate whatever slobber their content creator of choice has dribbling out the corner of their mouth that week. :wink:

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If the developers want those people to continue paying to play the game, they should.

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People who dare to quit the game on a daily basis are not paying the bill. Let’s get that clear.

Casuals who don’t even engage with most contents are paying the bills, then long term players, then those baby ragequitters.

Translation: if the game were balanced better, it would be balanced better.

Still not sure why OP thinks they have a point, but oh well.

As a side not, stop looking at tier lists.

Been a mythic raider for 7 years and have never heard this terminology you’re throwing around.

It honestly sounds like you look at tier lists without really knowing much about the game, and think that mythic raiders seriously consider tier lists as valuable information, but I assure you they do not.

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There seems to be a misunderstanding there, and I apologize for that. The way you worded it “…who can’t press wasd properly during a boss fight”, I translated it as players who have the audacity to enter content without first having done research to know absolutely every single detail of boss mechanics.

We are in agreement then.

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If tier lists were even half as much of a universal truth as the misinformed believe them to be, and were set in stone, the RWF wouldn´t have ended until 3 weeks ago.

Because you have to play what the encounter requires, not what some talking head arbitrarily said is best.

This is part of why the only truly top end gamer making tier lists at all is Max from Liquid, and he always says that those are a meme and should not be taken seriously.

Unfortunately, he doesn´t say that enough, nor is it a blinking red screen-filling text over the final list that every dumbarse skips forward to to know what FOTM class he´s going to play this season. :wink:

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You use your mouse to move not wasd

It took me a very long time to figure out what the hell you’re even talking about, OP.

You basically want better class balance, right? …Right?

i use qwe, but sure. whatever you prefer. doesnt change the fact that the game shouldnt be balanced around unskilled players.

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I use wasd and click on abilities.

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I have no idea what OP is saying

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I click on them too! My only issue is that the new spellbook takes up a lot of the screen :slightly_frowning_face:

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Or they could make the game fun to play first. Too many UI notifications. Too many buttons. Too many problems with Classes years and years and years.

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I ´m actually playing guitar hero on my second screen and just have the controller y-cabled to my PC, seems to work well enough :stuck_out_tongue: :beers:

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