Rshaman is so unbelievable broken that all the teams I met in 2s are either rdruid or hpala teams. Makes sense.
play with DH = profit
In 2âs as resto sham, play with any other class and see what happens. Resto shaman is absolute dumpster fire. Clunky, most boring itâs ever been. I love shaman, but man, you need to experience it yourself. Most people see Rsham in twos and see a free win. Just put pressure on his dps and watch him squirm.
I just donât like how rshaman is immortal with only passive healing, thatâs all tbh
rshaman is great.
Whatâs the point in being immortal with passive healing if you canât keep your partner alive even when spamming all your heals & cooldowns. Iâd happily trade some passive self heal to be able to actually move my partners HP bar from time to time.
Also youâre playing with the age old tactic of âTrain the blueâ then you deserve to lose as your tactic is out of date
itâs bad game design, simple.
yes sherlock but itâs still bad game design when there are classes in the game that are immortal
I have seen it all.
You kinda seemingly purposely left out the information that it is also lowest healing output healer atm. Even Disc heals for more than Rsham. It just costs more mana to him.
Overall healing per mana (mana efficiency) is still garbage as shaman. Even tho his spells are cheap, theyâre such a low healing output, that he has to cast multiple of them eventually rendering the cheapness not cheap anymore.
well theyâre, all Absterge, Drainer, Cdew and Lontar have the same opinion, healing output is too low
Literally Holy Shock from Hpal can heal for 60k, but Healing Wave (1.4 / 2.2 cast - depending on if you have Tidal Waves) heals for 20k.
Justifying poor healing output of Shaman by saying that DH is immortal. AKA Nerf shaman because DH is too good.
This is like the most idiotic thing Iâve ever read.
I agree, they should nerf DK ⊠a lot. Itâs far more broken (survivability wise) than DH and pre-nerf Destruction combined.
rshaman should never have same direct healing as other healers with that mastery and spirit link/grounding/earthen wall and spirit pack. It has very strong tools for damage prevention and is as good as rdruid and MW right now but cdew and others will keep crying if it is not broken like it was in s1. Actually I bet some were still crying even back then, I remember discs crying about other healers back then when they were god mode.
Have you read that or did you just make it up your mind?
Good one
He is actually right. Everyone says how overtuned Death Strike currently is.
DH leech should be also tonned down by.
Shaman kit prevents a lot of caster damage, but play vs dk/melee/mw-rdruid as Rsham.
You canât ground or kick bash into clone, or prevent monk cc, you have to spam surge, and actually youâll need grounding for the dk ranged cc. If u use ground and itâs a warrior Iâll get stormbolt or pet stun and then dk will cc you again. If you go too far and gets cc by the monk or Druid ring of peace and vortex will prevent the link.
If you try to stay around for link etc youâre beggin to get cc by the 2 melees.
I agree shaman got a huge kit with tons of tools and utility, too much numbers and the class goes bonkers. But atm itâs really too low. I donât think it needs much but a small buff wouldnât be dangerous for the game.
The problem I face when I try to play resto in 2s is that Iâm getting oom quite quick and itâs hard to actually get mana back. Iâm sure itâs also because I have wrong stats (crit/haste/versa/mastery - best for ele when resto is crit/versa/mastery/haste). I can play in 2 different ways. Either defensive way and just spam heals or offensive and I think it might be the way to go for some matchups. I take 3x Igneous Potential and hit these huge Lava Bursts. Resto LB hits harder than Ele one.
I play 2s mostly to help a friend getting a cap so I swap chars for fast win. I heavily dislike 2s so canât comment too much on that.
But I think looking at numbers right I might in 3s (also playing for total fun with trash comps, not caring about it) is I should go more Aggro. With the reduction of purge and shaman cd and poor healing output, granted the class utility it might be something Iâll try out on my next arena session with friends.
Problem they play ele and so, ele got no gear and barely his off traits. So Iâm maybe biaised due to having to maybe heal too much since he s a tad squishy and get tunneled very often.
Ele is very trait dependant so without Igneous Potential/Lava Shock traits it will be tough. I main Ele so I know how painful it is.
Tbh Destro/Ele/x isnât as strong as it usually was. Iâd play with Shadow or WW as Destro. Shadow/Destro/R Shaman is actually good as they have great synergy and healing with Chain Heal in 3s isnât as inefficient as in 2s. Shaman provides extra kick that Shadow lacks so he can use Silence/Stun for CC chains.
Yeah well not a lot of choice so for now itâs ele/shadow/rsham.
Weâre all missing tons of traits cuz we cba farm all day. And shadow hates swap so it doesnât help he doesnât play with it, hence why I said Iâm probably biased. But I still think a 20% healing increase of wave wouldnât hurt the game.
If he wants to play shadow only you either need to play Frost Mage/Shadow/R Druid or H pala, Boomy/Shadow/R sham or Destro/Shadow/R Shaman. Rest of his comps arenât even close to these 3.
If rshaman so great, why can i never see Cdew, Drainer or Lontar playing shaman anymore? Absterge is the only one playing Rsham and even he says the class isnât great right now, putting it politely.
No one is recommending Rsham as a healer right now and people playing the class currently isnât a fotm roller lol
Cdew plays R Shaman in AWC - but only with Havoc and Unholy because they can sustain themselves and they provide Shaman with 2 extra def cds - AMZ/Darkness