The rework for Ret is amazing! It feels fluid and has good utility and damage. I can say that I haven’t had this much fun on a melee in a long time. I was going to main my sub rogue cause that is also super fun to play with the same characteristics. All I ask is that Blizz give us some fun and not nerf us into the ground!
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instead of nerf they should buff other specs/talents
I’m in love with new animations.
All these swings and swooshes with a 2h sword combined with explosions of light look magnificent.
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Oh no…you said it. Now Blizz will respond with typical “Fun detected” mesage and put us back into ground as they usualy do. Remember Long arm of the Law? 50% movement speed on judgement? Ye apparently it was too much fun so they completely removed it. Just keep your voices down and enjoy. While we can…
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Blizzard: HOLD IT RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM YOU HAVE VIOLATED THE NO FUN ZONE AND WILL BE NERFED 
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Ye retribution right now is a lot of FUN
But is it only me or they slowed us down?
i have 29 % haste on my paladin and i feel like my GCD is way to slow
I’ve played my ret paladin in the new open world area yesterday. Without Seraphim, and with the automatic Consecration cast, he feels really fun to play. Every ability now feels like it’s impactful.
Looking forward to trying this out in alt raids and M+ in the coming days. 
The coming nerfs will probably have nothing to do with “fun detected” and more to do with “killing people in pvp from 80% to 0 in one global”.
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No, you need nerfing. How its gone live like this is ludicrous.
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Was leveling a Tauren Sunwalker, thanks for the review, will continue leveling.
Fun because it’s over the top or would you play it even if gets nerfed by the hammer?
I do enjoy ret right now since the experimentation is nice and you can have multiple viable builds , too bad the paladin tree is pretty much 2 things you can do and a lot of talents there are useless.
My issue though is that even though most ret players addressed the issue of mobility (it is stupid to have plate users jumping around like monkeys like warriors ) is not great.
Also one last thing the burst is awesome now and thats understandable since we have no MS effect but when you pair with a warrior or a rogue then it is pretty much gg.
that’s why they just need to delete pvp it’s getting beyond old now that our spec gets nerfed because of that piece of horse crap mode if any other class 1 macro deletes you its totally fine but if its ret … OMG call the press we gotta nerf it now super annoying
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It’s a terrible rework on the retri tree. It feels awful on fights like raszageth, where ST and AoE is equally important, and we just can’t have both at the sime time anymore.
If there’s a situation where only one is important, than it’s fine, especially the AoE build. But this is almost never the case. Even in M+, boss dmg is still important, especially on higher keys / with tyra. And the right side of the tree does literally nothing on ST, and vice versa with the left side.
The 4 HP spender playstyle is also weird af.
Glacial Spike got nerfed into the ground in the very same patch.
You want my opinion, I think casts should be rewarded regardless of CD’s, I think hitting an opponent should be rewarded as melée as well. You hit something, it hurts them. I’m sick and tired of wings and other 3 minute CD’s blowing people up, and then nothing. It’s not fun in PvE and it’s not fun in PvP. I think nerfing Glacial was a far sillier move than nerfing wings, but I’m honestly not too mad and it certainly contradicts your statement.
That’s why I’ve chosen Frost Mage - because my 3 minute CD extends to the point where it’s almost always up unless I die or the tank decides to take a picnic for no reason (healers needing mana is a good reason though). This creates a more flat, though not entirely flat, damage profile so I always feel capable and powerful instead of spending 80% of the time feeling useless.
The fact that rets are praising the new design and that design being exactly nerfing the major CD’s and buffing base line damage confirms to me I’m not the only one. My opinion is probably even the majority, which just makes me so happy - or rather what makes me happy is that Blizzard seem to begin to understand this.
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Hello, Kvatch guard.
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They should incrase druid overheal up to 250% and also druids base vers up to 100%, make hots undispelable.
I just love that I’m no longer made of paper
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