Soo, wait 1 hour to get a full pug group vs a 40man russian premade? there is no chance on earth, that a pug can handle this premade. they are so well organized and it always end up with us getting stomped completely… 500+bonus honor too russians 0 to horde. clearly need some change or allow us, to make premades using addons. even with a organized horde team where everyone try to make a strategy it fails. whats your oppinion?
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This one was never fix and it will never be fixed, dwal with it
There’s so few russians and they’re in a group of their own so they’ll basically always be able to “premade” into AV.
Only way to fix that would be throwing them in with the EU players mixed, but that’d mean you can’t really communicate with your teammates.
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im aware of that, but this premade is nothing like normal players playing the game like a normal pug would do. everyone is doing as their leader command… they might use discord or something. not sure tho, but when they drop flanking strats, 20man hs to allibase strat and stuff like that you clearly see, that this is not just a pug playing the game
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it’s blizzard fault for not bringing original TBC bg’s system.
-original wow tbc was battlegroups based & you could never face Non-ENG server if you’re playing Eu-En. (you only face German/french/others…etc if you was playing in a Cross-Language battlegroup)
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Or maybe, just maybe, there were always premades and you are just crybabies that want to cry about literally everything
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-original tbc was battlegroup based without allowing russians to queue match vs eu-en
-current tbc-c is regional wild, where russians can easily premade since they have instant queue and 1main server.
allowing Russians to face Eu-En in bg’s? only happened in cata Expansion.
I personal don’t even care, but this is just another fail among the tons of fails that exist in TBC-C & wasn’t in original TBC.
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In a game where we arent allowed to make premades, this violates that rule imo!
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uhh there is only 4 russian servers, 3 tiny ones and one big pvp server. When they enter a random BG, 80% will be from Flamegor.
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Who cares tho? If anything they have atpeast more accurate tbc than we do, stop crying about everything
You just missed the point that if BGs were server based as original TBC ones it would be much easier to premade. Also many servers would have impossible to start on Horde dominated servers. If HvH would be active there would be a lot of collusion and win trading.
So no, local server BGs are not an option in 2021.
server based bg’s was only in vanilla(60) NOT In tbc.
for tbc 2007 it was battle-group based where 8~12EU-EN together for matchmaking system, and u can’t pre-made like that. but in same time? that Battle-group can’t face russians. that’s the point of original tbc system.
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Yea, some alliance abuse xbg because they can’t win legit matches. Its annoying but see it from a different perspective: Its pathetic, like those kids back in the days got everything from their parents they could think off but once real stuff hitted, they miserably failed. (like fair fights)
Imagine how annoying it must be for alliance to lose literaly every pug and see everyday how much you suck. Thats why they doing it. So i take those pre-xbg’s with a fatherly smile and think “good job kids”
Thats what it is.
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At this point Blizz should just make them que against each other, theres no reason we have to suffer their premades because they cant stick playing vs themselves.
Imagine going for the most meta option there is, ruining the game for everyone and then blaming the other faction for using mechanic that was literally in tbc, just cry more zug, its soooo pathetic but what can you do, thats the zug
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Your opinion is irrelevant seeing there is no rule against queueing up at the same split second as 39 other people are
Realm populated by russians is not a russian server. The reason these guys are getting into same bgs is the fact that they got only a few servers and thats why they always get grouped together easier because the game doesnt allow them to be grouped with EU servers. smh
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It was not a premade.
There are just one alive server from Russian tab, so called “Flamegor”.
When you fighting against russians, 90% of opposite team would be from Flamegor server, not because of premade, just because other servers are dead.
Tbh, Russians, especially Russian Alliance, has 90%+ winrate on AV.
They’re freaks especially of AV – if you’ll join them without a AV base return trinket, you’ll get mixed with sheet.
More than half of PUG group know what (and when) to do, so sometimes they just doing all their best without all communications kekw.
I’ve played more than 50 AV (as Russian Horde), we have 9 of 10 BGs won against EU alliance, but we also sucked out 9 of 10 BGs against RU alliance.
Also, situation is completely opposite if we talking about WSG or AB.
EU oftenly wins these BGs despite that sometimes 100% of players are from Flamegor kekw
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There were RU-realms but in late TBC. They appeared during 4th arena season.
It’s partially true, because there is AV discord for coordination and communication but not everyone joining there. And sometimes if there are no ppl in discord or the game is screwed by not enough players on the AV, you can take a lead, wait in def until more will join, and start spamming in chat “/rw take snowfall, recap bunker, etc.” and still win.
You knew that in original TBC there were servers full of us, Russian speaking players, like Warsong PvP EU, Shadow moon PvP EU and servers where Russian speaking players were majority like Stonemaul or Deathwing I played on.
Even more so, many of our player play on EU TBC Classic servers now, because they don’t like our low quality localisation when even class talents have missing or misleading translation.