So I played the Beta and I think this is unfair

You know me so well, boo.

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Amonet be blessed! Huzzah!

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Yeah, but come on. We had 3 expansions where the Horde is pretty much ignored. And now when you think it’s time for the Horde to shine since the action takes place in a Horde city, we got more Alliance characters than Horde being featured. What the hell…

Factions are no more relevant

Jaina at her best. And awesome line delivery from her VA.

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Kael’thas was in love with her for a reason.

PS Laura is BiS in every role. If anyone is interested, currently she is in The Mighty Nein, a spin off of Vox Machina.

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Whole patch about goblins…

Whom were neutral as Blizzard never stopped telling us.

Aha, so characters are only neutral when they are Horde, if they are Alliance they are always blue.

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So Oribos being an Alliance city? Or Valdrakken? Or Tazavesh? Or Dornogal?
Second expansion in a row we goes deeper into alliance lore and their faction races? Oh wait, it’s horde-centristic patches

So… Why not giving us more Orcs and Trolls in the story?

Let’s see just from TWW and the characters that played major role…
Moira, Magni, Anduin, Alleria, Alleria again, Renzik, Alleria Again, Gazlowe for like 3 quests, Alleria Again

Isnt one of the zones about Amani trolls, that Horde will unlock customizations for?

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adding skin options is not the same as the real race with see with the new models. It is still Darkspear trolls in the end.

Funny since you keep arguing that Alliance has Eredar due to skin options, I mean I’m open to either of these stances, but you can only choose one and stick to it.

The story also makes sure to make it absolutely clear that any troll involved in the Amani Storyline including Raventusk Trolls are absolutely neutral and had no dealing with Horde. Just like they did with Undermine because apparently that branch of Bilgewater did not sign in the Horde Membership.

ok let’s recup what Horde did in terms of lore up to this point

-Thrall no longer warchief

-Sylvanas turned into…whatever

-Undead faction is without leader, there is some sort shadow council that nobody gives a damn (like this undead sister of Arthas made by the light or whatever, nobody remembers her name anyway)

-Trolls are…there and that is end of their story since start of the Legion

-Taurens are there and this is also end of their story

-Gilenas lost due to this menethil undead sister in short quest chain (from the Horde perspective)

-Allied races are with Horde cos they had their 5 minutes and that is it (and to be fair - same apply for Alliance at most at least)

-Eitrigg is now blue team friend and he shouldn’t be. Artahi Higlands lost for the Horde.

-Silvermoon lost to the Horde cos it is now hub city (gee I wonder when blue team city will be hub city with district for the Horde.)

-We got civil war, as Horde, in BFA, yay - how is Civil war going in Alliance?

-Elvs unit but without Highborn as it seems (again, Horde)

-Even protrairs for the house are general like Xalateh or blue team. Yay.

I mean the more I think the more Horde is just…there cos a lot of players rolled Horde characters and there is no way to make them re-roll on alliance character.

With every expansion it feels more like World of Alliancecraft if anything.

Bonus points:

-Who is Warchief of the Horde and why it is someone ā€œrandomā€? My point is - they could put Lilian Voss there and it would make same sense.

This is the problem. Horde is always losing/is bad/is left without any meaningfull impact on the game and no, making Garrosh last boss or Gallywix doesn’t count as making Horde important to the story from the Horde point of view.

I’m just getting tired lakicng of:

-Strong Horde

-United Horde

-Horde that is important

-Necormancer class

Sorry for rant I’m moving on…

They are about as Horde as the Scarlet Crusade is Alliance.

There is literally zero difference between draenei and Eredar apart from some color variation to hint at the demon corruption

No, but the nelf town we spent half of Dragon Flight building is Alliance. Where’s my rebuilt Undercity? And you cannot be talking about Midnight. Midnight is a joke. You got a Horde city and the MAJORITY of main characters are Alliance.

because elves are fencier. im not joking.