Solving Premades

People mistake unranked battlegrounds for battlegrounds for beginners

It’s not :

  • Unranked Battlegrounds mean there’s no MMR and rating on players to balance both teams with a “skill”. This mean you sign up for beating or being beated hard.

  • Ranked Battlegrounds mean you are assigned with a numbers as a skill, your ratio of win loss will be set as a number called MMR and the number of game will make it to a number called Rating. This mean if a player is higher MMR than his current skills, he will face more game lost and will be matched to more player at his same skill overtime. That mean the beated players overtime will get a 50% winrate one day no matter what with player at the same skill than him and enjoy the game. However the players that keep beating everyone will still goes up, but the more he goes up the more in queue time he wait while he remain unbeated.

So of course if the good players is unbeaten and keep winning in ranked and also unranked he will choose a bracket where there’s the less queue time. You can’t blame him for that since he don’t find enough people to face at his bracket.

However if you want to speak about that part

It’s more to the people who are beated every games why they don’t go ranked so they can face people of their skill and finally have their 50% winrate or more due they can face “normal” people of their skills .

But do not mix this, it is really important :
Unranked != bracket for beginner
Ranked != bracket for pro players

See it more like this :
Unranked = Unbalanced bracket with short queue time
Ranked = Balanced bracket with people of equal skill

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Im not going to look for a second group so I can play with 3-4 friends I usually play with, so I’ll repeat it again:

Its not balanced when one team is premade and the other not. The ego is among those thinking its fun to play premades against none premades.

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Frankly speaking, every one has the right to play however with whoever, there is also two ways to play balanced games, one of them being 3vs3 or 10 vs 10 which is essentially premades vs premades (with some exceptions in picking pugs) then you have blitz format where games are often balanced games overall.

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Typing such a huge wall of text in your post to justify yourself is a huge red flag

Arguing semantics about the meaning of “Unranked bg” or “Random bg” is a second huge red flag

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Indeed. However, I will continue to say that some PvP communities and pre-teams are fantastic, while others have toxic gaming styles. One option, and the most fun, is to organise and counter their teams.

They leave when you counter their teams. That’s the whole point of their existence. They group up for easy gameplay not to have fun games or even have to play good to compete.

We had situations like this so often in WoWs history, starting with PvP alts in 19s or 29s that always claimed they wanted to equip themselves well and then play against other good players, and who then disappeared when Blizzard only let them play against each other.
Or with regular groups in Warsong who simply left the game every time there was a different regular group on the opposing side.
These are not good players, they are players who don’t want any resistance, but want to roll over noobs undisturbed.

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Which part of Destrarion’s posts are wrong or inaccurate?

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if you lack constructive criticism and consider this a red flag you are basically at the wrong place, that why forums are made for
But look like you came here to troll and since constructive criticism is not in your tools for argumentation when you see something you don’t like you throw “red flag” so easely without explaining why.

Oh and by the way posting on a classic character is a red flag, a show of cowardice of hidding his main :wink:

That why Ranked exist: to create balance between the two teams.

Imo that’s a another issue on the deserter not being strong enought, people can just leave and connect to an another character and freely requeue easely without consequence
If deserter was putting people into a systems where it put all deserter together only after X game done before being “redemmed” to be able to queue with the normal people, or even prevent any type of PvP queue for 1 hours ( ranked and unranked) on the whole account people will not leave.

it’s just deserter is like nothing to them.

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Does anyone have a reasonable explanation for why so many Epics have been starting recently, some on both sides, some on one side, absolutely undernumberd, at times that are normally relatively unlikely for premades?

Try summarising your hypothesis! ←Constructive criticism.

0 % logic
100 % raw emotion and insults.
lol

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It is perfect logic:

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No, you just show your complete lack of rational arguments or rebuttals.
Try addressing Destrarion’s points you disagree with and explaining why if you want to be taken seriously.

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We can’t even queue with two friends do an evening playing BGs like we used to for a decade because 2/3rd of the games are premades.

It’s awefully sad.

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So, a group consisting of you and your friends turned out to be weaker than another group of friends, you didn’t like it, and you came here to talk about it?
Phenomenal.

Math is hard I recon.

Two or three guys queuing together equals a 10 men meta RBG squad synced in a discord ?

What are we meant to do when the remaining 7 players isn’t even geared and aren’t in a vocal chat with us?

You’re one of their mules aren’t you?

Hes a syncer. That should be enough explanation.

Theres no point talking to someone who actively destroys the game and enjoys doing it.

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I don’t like small Battlegrounds. I just want to open your eyes a little.
The number of Russian players in small Battlegrounds is so small that everyone has known each other for years and knows each other’s capabilities. They’ve played hundreds of games together; they’re well-coordinated players who don’t need a leader, voice, or any other communication. These people don’t sync multiple groups; they play just like you and your friends, in a group of two to five. The only thing that sets you apart from them is the desire to win and a complete understanding of each other’s capabilities.
You can easily verify this. Two of the three teams stream live almost every evening. If you contact me in-game tonight, I’ll give you links to their streams and you’ll see everything for yourself.

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Answer me one thing if it’s as fair as you let it appear : why is it that russian teams “not synced that don’t need vocals” are always composed with 2 players from english servers and 8 from russian servers?

It’s a blattant proof they’re exploiting a breach to play in a queue they’re not not even meant to compete in at all.

They’re coordinated 10 men squads or 2*5 men squad invading a “RANDOM” queue.

Don’t tell me it’s just a couple of guys soaking 66% of all random BGs queues by themselves.

Grab a buddy of yours and go spend a week doing random BGs during the evening. Just see how it feels you hypocrite.

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