[Spoilers] Someone teach that pony a new trick, please

So somehow I found myself watching a Midnight lore roundup video and…

Can we please stop with the magical mind control? Seems like this time it’s both light and void that overload their associated characters like Turalyon, Alleria, or Lothraxion and thus make them into unwilling enemies of everything that’s good and right, or something like that. They barely have any charater traits as it is, can someone please be allowed to become a baddie of their own volition, please? Some tragic disagreement instead of the same plot device again and again?

No? Well, I had to ask…

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But don’t you want to see the power of love overcome mind control magics .
Oh Tyrandaaaa Where are you . I need you my love :smiley: . We miss those val’sharah vibes :smiley:

Either that or Alleria kills Turalyon , or the other way around . That could be spicy .

It would have been interesting plot to see a character fall down from good to evil trough a myriad of bad choices instead of 180 degrees mind control magic . Something like the Arthas , where we are still not sure how much was his doing and how much Ner’zhul .

But my main gripe is that they are making holly (light) be evil . It becomes synical and one dimensional . Uther , Paladins , sacrificing them against demonic hordes and undead monsters . The human faith , the foundation of human society and identity . All that gazz is nonsense now .
Why stop the legion , scourge , Old gods or whatever , when at the end of the day it was all evil , but in different color .

Turning a vibrant opposing world into a flat one dimensional gray mess .

Agreed on that as well. It’s not a religion, it’s just another kind of basically magic, and that’s the final nail on that coffin. And all magic is evil., if not opposed by the casters’ will, or something like that. Such diversity!

Which wouldn’t even have to be bad for the story, if the story accepted how monumental of a change that is for the societies they invented, and how the changes this would bring could drive plots for years… But that’s not what they are doing, so why bother with the “what if”…

But wasn’t Anduin’s fall from grace sooo much cooler and more unique? I mean, he was a good guy, then he was magicked a bad guy, then we beat the bad out of him, and now he has PTSD! High drama! Let’s do that again one time or eleven!

Join the Azeroth Technocratic Liberal Society . All religions are a lie . All faiths misguided . Anything is permitted and nothing is evil …
As long as you studied in our university of advanced magic :smiley:

It really is kinda weird how chill the population of Azeroth is with this .
Death and Demons good ? Yaa sure .
Holy light and church bad ? Mmmkay
Warlocks in every horde city , after what warlocks did to the blood elves , and especially the ors . Zug Zug . Need more burrows ?

Even in the real world people still kill and fight over religious disputes . But here in the span of what 10-20 years , everything is forgotten .

Btw did we cure Anduin’s PTSD , or it is still a thing ? Maybe they can make a support and counseling group , where we can participate and listen to him crying in hands , saying " Thank you for sharing" . I have a feeling such a group will be in high demand by other plot characters :smiley:

An unreasonable sceptic could call that shoddy worldbuilding…

Therapy is a process, you don’t just cure it, obviously!

That way it can come back when it’s convenient to the plot, and stay out when it would complicate things. Worked well for Jaina, probably!

It’s the easiest way to jab an injection of tragedy without anyone losing or committing to anything. So it’ll be easy to go back from it if the decision backfires on a level of trend and economy, rather than anything story-minded.

Guy 1: “We can’t spare you, you killed 1,000,000 people!”
Redemption Guy: “Well, I was mind-controlled!”
Guy 1: “Oh, Okay. Not your fault.”

Easy. Plot done. Time for dinner.

It would be even easier and faster though, if we would just clobber a baddie and be done, instead of converting goodie to baddie to goodie, though. Anything the baddie does creates tragedy, if the author wants it. They are really betting on us caring about the mind control here. Which is hard to take seriously, as often as they play that card…

The writers would benefit from scrapping the preachy moralising altogether at this point.

There’s a woeful lack of consistency, which conveniently seems to align with the pet characters coddled by the development team who mysteriously have zero agency and are brought back from the brink…whereas other, more interesting characters were simply unceremoniously killed off and are ridiculed in the aftermath.