Survival - It's real bad boys

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Just wanted to Share my thoughts, about survival hunter in midnight so far.

Survival has gone from one of my favorite specs, to one of my absolute most hated ones.

It feels like blizzard has removed anything that made a good survival stand out, gutted our toolkit - and i exchange given us .. boomstick ? a boring ability, that feels insanely clunky to use.

I hate the theme and the gameplay, it’s so dumb’d down its insane.

We are basiclly just a worse version of BM now, no more kiting in and out of melee - risking it all for a big burst comp in melee or trying to stay alive kiting from range.

I understand that some of the utility had to go, but not only did they gut utility, they also completely gutted the core gameplay and skill expression of the spec.

I don’t think im gonna play this expansion, unless they revert a lot of stuff.

It is OKAY that there are specs, such as sub, mage , survival and so on that takes years and time invested to be able to pull off and shine on.

It is honestly spitting in Survival mains faces ( especially the pvp onetricks ) to simply wash away thier hard work and dedication to the spec like this.

Blizzard are clearly not listening, or they just want the game to be 8 abilities on all classes for the pve and controller players.

I atleast do not vibe with this at all, and i think you could have done a milion things to both prune and improve the spec ( especially since the spec for sure needed pruning on some stuff )

on a specific note on the “ fantasy “ of the class, i love wildfire bombs but thats mainly because they feel great to press. Personally i miss more chakrams, and bleedy, poison wilderness kinda stuff… i really don’t want a shotgun that feels awful to use, and for me atleast completely misses the spec fantasy ( so does bombs to some degree i guess, but they just feel so great to press)

Currently the only positive thing i can mention is the return of duelwield, besides that its a horribly boring dumpsterfire of a spec.

  • Sorry for the rant, and i know this is mainly from a PvP / skill ceiling chaser’s perspective.

Peace my dudes, let’s hope for the best -

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I disagree completely. Survival is the best spec to play in Midnight. And I love Boomstick, so much better than Fury of the Eagle.

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You are entitled to your opinion, but everyone whom plays survival pvp will disagree - take it from Bicmex, he absolutely hate what they have done with survival. Obviously if you just run dungeons and just want an easy rotation with big numbers on boomstick thats fine, im just an advocate for keep the skill ceiling on survival, and letting some other class be cookie cutter 1,2,3 . The Survival hunter rotation in Midnight is quite litteraly the easiest rotation in the game.

Not trying to be mean, but Survival has gone from one of the most complex, interesting specs with massive depth to fury warrior / DH version two.. and you could argue they have more complex utility and movement than survival has now.

As it stands now, noone will play survival in PvP there will litteraly be zero reason to. You bring nothing special anymore, and as long as people dont stand in boomstick your damage is mediocre aswell.

Btw, i agree i didnt like Fury of the Eagle aswell, but that really has nothing to do with the fundamental changes to the Specs kit ( that if you ask me dumbs the spec down so much it makes zero sense to play anymore )

Peace :slight_smile:

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They did this to surv because it was one of the least popular specs in the game and it was played by 3,5 enthusiasts. Now they did it less complex and more exciting for ordinary player, tuned numbers and voila: according to archon stats for midnight beta M+ its 3rd the most played spec in game, and 6th overall, what is looks like W for developers.

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I fully agree with you, i was looking forward continuing my sv hunter into Midnight until i tried it on the beta. Its worse than bad and incredibly poorly designed.

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Well yes, it’s fury warrior with a pet and a gun flavour :slight_smile:

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Initially I was enraged at the changes. However after a lot of play in the PTR, I actually think it is not only the best hunter spec, but one of the best specs in the game right now. There are things to improve and some mechanics contradict each other, but overall it is a good spec that does CRAZY damage. In PvP it is going to be hilarious with Takedown > Chakrams > Boomstick, as currently that combo on PTR is deleting people before the second tick of boomstick.

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I agree with most of what is said. :slightly_smiling_face:

I like that the damage rotation was simplified, but I hate with a burning passion the utility changes :sweat_smile:…

Survival has now become a glass canon spec… instead of the versatile creative spec it used to be, where your creativity was the limit for winning a fight.

Now it’s just “deal damage super fast before you die”…. It’s basically “old fury warrior who needs a pocket healer”…

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