The comic booky writing ain't going to cut it anymore

A mature story is one in which an adult theme is treated tastefully.

The WoW team is definitely putting in the effort to tell mature stories. The Erstwhile Ecologists Quest Chain is a well-done story about two people in a romantic relationship that never devolves into how much they sleep with each other. So, something can’t be said about 100% of similar stories in other games.

And the Bronze Dragonflight should have been the main story of Dragonflight from the start.

But then we come to the problems. One, we are still in the comic booky realm, where the only way Bruce Wayne could become Batman and does help people only if his parents died in front of him. At first glance, this is a very deep idea, but once you look at it for more than a second, you come to the logical conclusion that a character as compassionate and caring as Bruce Wayne would try to help people in some way and do it correctly even if his parents didn’t die.

As a result, the villains of Dragonflight, especially the Primals, have turned into ProDZ villains.

The Black DragonFlight story can be summarized with the title Dumb and Dumber.

And fine, the Evanescence’s discography fits well with the Death Knight storyline, and you can cut yourself on the Demon Hunter one, but at least those stories are clear what they’re about and were they’re going.

On the other hand, the Evoker/Dracthyr has lost all threads.

And these are stories about looking for yourself and what is your place when you don’t know if you are a failed experiment, losed loved ones, someone’s entire life being destroyed, the death of entire ways of life, about legacy, about genuine grievances that can’t be resolved by killing the bad guy, and about feeling powerless when your home was being destroyed or changed against your will.

These different themes are looked at, but nothing is done with them, and as a result, the story feels hollow. So, the comic booky style may have worked in the past, but clearly it isn’t working now.

This isn’t to say that comics didn’t have actual mature stories, but there is a difference between Bruce Wayne doing good things only because his parents died in front of him and him being motivated by wanting another child to not lose their parents like he did.

And yes, some of you will argue that writing in video games is hard. So, writing mature stories is even harder, but here is an example of that thinking being wrong.

Guild Wars Original a very mature game because of quests like the Little Lost Bear, which deals with the subject of a child’s death, manages to do it on a smaller scale without losing its younger audience score, because it never oversteps its boundaries and focuses on the subject.

( So, it’s very insulting when the sequel to Warhammer Online, Warhammer Online 2, that uses the Guild Wars name as a sticker on top of its title ends up extremely not just immature but also infantile because the hacks from Mythic UnEntertainment that forcefully replaced the original team can’t accept their careers were over years ago. Mainly because, despite throwing adult themes in, ends up having romantic relationships that are only about the physical, abuse that causes severe panic attacks is used as a joke and hand waved away, and let’s not talk about how they treat mental illness, addiction, death, pestilence, the consequences of war (which makes it even worse because the entire story of Guild Wars Original was built on that), and degenerative conditions.)

And if people are still worried that this will affect the age rating, stories like this

despite being reviewed over the years, they still hold the same age rating.

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Enjoy your next game.

No need to be rude.

The OP is complaining about comic booky writing, and how it doesn’t cut it.

Unfortunately, that aint going anywhere anytime soon. So either OP needs to get used to it and continue enjoying WoW, or will be looking for a new game. I presume OP made this thread because he’s thinking about the later.

One can only assume you’re referring to yourself.

definitely.

Tyr is here.

Oh…

I’m not mad, not even in the slightest.

OP is clearly mad though, since he felt the need to make a long thread about something nobody cares about.

Yeah , your definitely not mad, because a non mad person will go for an insult first and last.
Look dude, your clearly mad , if your out of the gate using insults.

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Hmmm. coming from the guy throwing insults around that’s quite a big statement.

I’ve not made any insults in this thread, other than maybe asking if you were referring to yourself.

Anyway, I’ve not time for your trolling. Have a good life, you’re now blocked.

Oh no. I don’t get to see you any more.
Yeah , not sorry , but “Do you even enjoy anythings” as your first comment is 100% what a mad person would respond with.

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:no_mouth:

So basically it’s not dark therefore it’s immature and bad? Ok :joy:

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What?
Do you know the difference between dark and mature ?
Dark is when it is hopeless or lacks empathy.
Prince Of Persia Warrior Within is basically dark, but immature.
Warhammer 40k is dark and in many cases internally immature.

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No I know the difference it seems the forums don’t I ain’t reading that bs to know it’s the typical wah it’s not death despair depressing like the usual bs threads

Oh, you only read the text in the brackets.( you know, the optional thing)
But if you read the rest of this you would have see I talk about romance , about people even villans should be treated with respecte, and how all of the good examples have an empathetic side to them.

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Right!

The Warhammer 40k universe , a 100% mature and wholesome universe.

Also, why is there a guy that posted 4 messages one after the other ? Does this man not know what edit does ?

Haven’t we pretty much been the Warcraft avengers though. Superman or whatever. Comming to save the day and the world from a bigger and eviler bad eatch time?

Its Dragonball z… You cant say dragonball was ‘‘mature’’ cause they hade blood spills and mature things happening in it alone. Its the same with wracraft.

Its not game of thrones… Its a mmo super hero cartoon. I don’t agree with it xD but it is what it is…

Spider-man has allot of mature stuff happening in it too. That works for teenagers and adults alike. But the comic is still intended for 12+ and above teens.

The posts he/she was replying to were removed by mods.

no clue maybe on mobile i know i have trouble scrolling back mid message when im on my phone

Just my uneducated opinion, but I think it’s not so much about the story you tell but rather how you tell it. If people feel disengaged from it (for any reason), there’s no way they’ll get immersion out of it.
To me personally a predictable story is a waste of characters. I don’t expect a plot twist on every corner, but there’s nothing wrong with keeping the player in the dark for a while as long as there’s a clear goal we’re working towards.

As for mature themes, I don’t think we need gore and suggestive themes in every quest but the game also shouldn’t actively avoid dark stuff, loss and even death of semi-main characters.

Imo the sole purpose of the writers needs to be making an entertaining and engaging story. No agendas, no quotas either way.