I just expect every kind of player in leveling dungeons, and honestly never a new player has ruined my experience in there. Only elitists.
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lol this thread
dude, suck it up and move on…quality of experience is a LOL argument in leveling activities (read: you should expect it not to be of the most pristine quality)
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You were too at the start… we all were.
So shut up and carry on.
I hate those kind of people, thinking everybody should be perfect at levelling and learning level.
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How do you ruin someones experience in a leveling dungeon?
He said running 
Downloading pwn and then looking at the best for you heirlooms take at most 9 mins. What is stopping you?
Why do other people need to deal with your unwillingness to check a guide?
Is it that hard to go something easier , before you throw yourself at the wolves and make everyone in your party have to suffer?
Is waiting a little more for your reward track points that painful ?
I have the mount and I didn’t even do a single group content.
You can read journal from A to Z and you will still fail even tho you know boss mechanics
The practise makes perfect in this game
To clear 20 and higher keys you need to know more then just every mechanic of trash and boss in dungeon
you need to know timers for your CDs and everyone in their party needs to know when and what to use what to interupt what to los what talents are good for that specific key so you will have easier time.
You need to know what comp is good what class interact with other class.
and all that you can’t achiev by knowing the basic THEORY behind that because there is no sheet of paper.
You need to go in and fail couple of 18-20’s to actually time some 
this game is FAil and repeat till you get it
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By wasting their time . By forcing everyone to double time. By simple ruining their rotations.
But then for you it isn’t the world of warcraft , but the world centering around your ego and now you want that mount.
I went to Alghetar Academy 18+ with my ret hoping to get 418 chest on Wednesday → picked up some vengeance dh who did 17+ with his friend who had the same exp → he died from the plants on the tree boss in a jiffy and left the key with no words and regrets. I also managed to die from Blessing of Sacrifice for the first time in my life (on ret, ofc) using it on this dh right before this boss. Eventually, managed to get my poor key back to 18 and finished the other instance with warrior
This is your problem, you keep them alive at all costs. I simply let them die, and tell them to use their mitigation (bone shield for dks, iron fur, shieldblock/IP) etc before next pull. I am friendly though, no need to get on edge. It’s ok to make mistakes, but they will never know if you hardcarry heal them.
When I heal, I let stupid dps die too, I do not blow up all my cds on them. You’d be surprised how quickly the dps that died, see their overall disappear, learn how to mind their steps a bit, and even interrupt.
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You try telling them to do that.
Bone Shield does nothing on nowadays mobs… it’s just a meaning to do more damage and get a feeble sense of defensive. All you need is a good combo of mastery, haste and red thirst 
Paper tanks and LFD / levelling-dungeons? What? Those dungeons don’t even need a healer…
When I started my path as a healer, i went out and found a person in Asheron’s Call that knew how to heal,because at the time this was the Best way. Then I followed his instructions, and once he told me i understand what to do, i started helping a few of my new pledges and few of a friend’s pledges to level up their characters from the start even though I had the gear to out heal and out dps everything.
It was a long journey , but it was worth it.
If I started by doing world bosses with my pledges or with a group from the person i pledge to it would have been a mistake , because I would have learned nothing and would have ruined it for them.
did you not kill the big add to clear the stacks before 2nd set of add spawn ?
if not then no wonder VDH get obliterated there if group is slow to clear stacks 
i dk, we kept killing everything, I was 100k dps and hunter 120k, even so dh literally died in 5 seconds or less, as I mentioned, his friend did 50k on that fight 
I agree.
To give some context, when they ramped up the difficulty in TW Dungeons, during BFA, I was literally struggling to keep people HP topped up, on my BE Holy Paladin.
During WoTLK TW week, I get a Warrior Tank, that didn’t had enough HP. His HP was always spiking, he was also not tolerant of other players mistakes. My mistake was staying after he kicked an Orc Hunter for, in his opinion staying behind fighting mobs.
The entire Dungeon was made of constant wipes. I got kicked in the second last boss, when I couldn’t heal through the phase that the boss (a vampiric elf) was draining people’s HP. We killed it, with me and another DPS remaining, but I got kicked after the Tank beg the team to do it.
To clarify, I’m not against playing with noobs. Once in Atal’Dazar, when Exile’s Reach, was introduced, my group had a level 10 Orc Warrior, probably freshly out of the new starting zone. He was struggling to tank the 1st boss and after a wipe(s), I asked him to switch places with my higher level BE Warrior. Because I had more spells, we did the boss and I handed the Tank role back to him, till the end.
Before I started tanking, I spent several dungeon runs playing as a DPS and a Healer. Before I entered, I made sure my character was properly geared. At least with a shield.
I had a Orc Warrior in TBC that was tanking with a 2 handed weapon, on the Dark iron dwarves dungeon, when I was leveling my Forsaken Holy Priest.
I usually avoid tanking as much as possible unless I’m confident I can do it.
Tanks have less than a minute queue.
DPS have to wait a lot longer. When they get in, they naturally expect you to perform.
When people say: “Tank is so easy” on the forums, I kind of question, what exactly is their play style.
If it’s the kind of player that jumps in to a Tank, just changing specs, poorly equipped, expecting others to make up for his flaws, than I agree. Tanking is easy (/s)
Cheers.
It was most probably the poison dot. Healers need to dispel it or it can stack indefinitely killing tank in 2 seconds by the end of the fight. If you had a healer who can’t dispel poison, hasn’t talented it or just doesn’t have the experience it wasn’t even tank fault. Just a friendly advice for next time, look into things before you point fingers
I don’t see anything wrong with people trying the tanking role in LFD. That’s the ideal place to go and try and learn a bit.
Ofc there will always be those that make a tanks job harder, dps that pull for example.
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That was just plants destroying the hell out of that dh, the damage that particular dh could take was purely insane, he pulled 2 packs and, to my mistake, I BoSed it, died in 2 seconds roflmao. I was playing ret since season 2 bfa, but hey I could never die from BoS to tank before 
Pretty sure I will not invite dh tanks to my keys, but it’s my own choice 