No it is not upgrade, gold is gold , upgrade is upgrade, I did not say that there is something wrong with running your group like it , you can do whatever you want, but it is just plain stupid to pull such tricks of at some random group without agreeing about doing this.
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Yeah, but you missed the whole point. BoEâs market price reflects its value in gold, vendor price doesnât.
BoP items are worth more than the vendor price, but BoE items are worth whatever their price on AH is.
So you use need/greed for BoPs and all need on BoEs.
You can buy upgrades with gold and you can get gold by selling gear. Iâm not sure what confuses you here.
Iâve never had a loot problem with anyone during my time, I actually talk to people Iâm playing with, to avoid any drama. Iâm just saying that in general, by default âall need on BoEsâ is the better way overall.
No, just because it sells well on the AH doesnât mean you just need on itâŚ
If Warden Staff drops and we have a druid tank that needs it, should everyone just need on it because âI can sell for 200+ goldâ?
Thatâs just stupid.
You are missing the point completely, just because you are greedy doesnât mean BoE should all be needed for just because it can sell well.
Sure if no-one needs it you all agree to NEED on it, but if someone specifies âI need this because itâs BiS or a big upgradeâ, you should let them have it.
Thinking that you are right just because it has a gold value, doesnât mean you are right.
This is such a roundabout logic. Anything is worth gold in this game, that doesnât mean anything really. Needing on something you want because you are greedy is an a-hole thing to do.
If a group I was in would all need for that reason while another member really needs it, I would give it to them if I won, you know because I actually care about the community and my fellow players.
But I guess people nowadays are just so selfish and so focused on their own little game they forget what the game is actually about.
Might as well play a singleplayer game then if you donât care about other people.
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Again you are talking about something else, if you join group , it is normal that people will expect that you will only need on items that are upgrade, if you do not say that everyone needs then it is just plain wrong from your part and can get you flagged as ninja looter as people will press greed and you will press need, just because you have this new trending thing at reddit does not make it some norm for everyone, so it needs to be talked trough with group.
You can not know if your BOE will sell , or if ti will have good value, maybe market is oversaturated with it, or there simply isnât demand for it, while when you go for your BOE you know what you are going for , not some random loot.
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If I sold that gun, I could buy a BiS with it easy.
If thereâs no demand for it, then itâs gonna be cheap as dirt on the AH anyway, so why not just buy it there?
And yes, BoE is literally random loot, what are you talking about? Nobody goes into a dungeon to farm some BoE.
Yes, because if the druid wins he saves 200+ gold, if someone else wins they get 200+ gold, its literally the same value. Iâm sorry if its too difficult to understand.
This guy will talk till the end of the world, seriously, just keep doing it , wait till half of server flags you and come cry to forum.
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Again with the stupid logic, just because itâs random doesnât say you should need on it. And saying you should buy it because it can be cheap is another stupid reason, it dropped so why should I buy it instead?
At this point Iâm thinking youâre just a troll, you canât be serious right?
I havenât read something so stupid on the forums for a while.
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Pretty ironic coming from you. Try to read that again.
If the druid wins he saves 200+ gold, if someone else wins they get 200+ gold.
Now take a deep breath and try to argue with that, you know, with actual arguments for why my logic is wrong, and not just by taking this moral highground of âIâm so good I care about other peopleâ as if it makes you right somehow, when in fact my stance is actually more moral than yours because it gives every group member a chance to roll for something valuable, and not just one person simply because they happen to be able to wear it.
With these guys, I could have that BoE in my bag already, and just take it for selling via bank altâŚYou would think in this day and age with all the evidence that not everyone is âniceâ. You wouldnât open yourself up to be scammed like the opening poster.
It may only be 1/100 runs, but it will happen during the years of vanilla, and there is no need for it. it is a BoE. It is tradeable. Buyable / Sellable. If you NEED it so much, go grind some gold and buy it.
Equally why is 1 persons need for a GOLD item more than the other 4 players. That sounds greedy af to me. Given I could go buy that hunter the weapon and give it to him. It is not tied to a boss/dungeon or anything else.
Iâve told you many times, but it doesnât get through your thick skull.
NEED = NEED
GREED = GREED
Itâs not about winning 200 gold, itâs about him getting an item he NEEDS.
Just because you are greedy for gold doesnât mean you NEED the item itself.
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Youâre acting like a little kid, simply repeating what you think is right without any arguments to back it up.
Well alright, you wanna take things literally? I can play that game too.
I need gold to buy a trinket. I can get gold by selling the BoE that dropped. So according to your logic I should roll âNeedâ. Easy.
I am dead, someone resurrect me! 
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Not think, it is.
The options need and greed exist for a reason, that you think you can just change the meaning of those words says enough to me.
Like I said, in your logic I should need on everything because itâs worth gold. I should tell my group âOh Iâm needing because I need the gold so I can buy other itemsâ
You sound like spoiled child really, i need the gold so I need the item to sell it.
I hope a BoE never drops in a group youâre in because I feel sorry for anyone you group with.
Hard to argue with someone that thinks GREED = NEED and NEED = buy it off the AH
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But you do realize the names of those buttons are completely irrelevant?
âNeedâ could be called âOption Aâ and âGreedâ could be called âOption Bâ. Would you then be confused and not know which button to press?
Thatâs a wrong conclusion. Try again.
But they are not called option A and B they are called Need and Greed. Since vanilla it was like that and made that way so people can see âI donât need this, but if no1 else needs it I have a chance to win itâ option. It has always been like that.
In vanilla people actually let you need on BoEâs because you needed it without thinking about their lost gold chance.
No that is literally what you are saying.
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Well Iâm offering to you that it doesnât matter what they are called. You would agree with me if you only actually thought about it for a couple of minutes.
For BoEs - yes, all should need unless they donât care about the item.
For BoPs - need if its a gear upgrade, greed otherwise.
First LBRS run I did in Vanilla the Krol blade dropped.
One mage was like âoooo can I disenchant thatâŚââŚ
ânoâ.
We took it and gave it to the guild sword rogue who needed it.
It was a guild run.
We are talking about PuGs and BoEsâŚexperience has shown that the best thing when no loot rules are agreed on is âall needâ. Otherwise opening poster incident will occur 1/10 times.
Its a boe, it can be discussed after rolls, traded, bought from each other, auctioned and bought off of AH etc.
You know you sound like hypocrite when you say:
For BoEs - yes, all should need unless they donât care about the item.
For BoPs - need if its a gear upgrade, greed otherwise.
Like where does gold needing go when it goes to greens?
Also it is just plain stupid to take someone BOE that could be worth 30 times your BOE, their accessibility and cost are not even close to balanced.
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It does matter, just because you canât accept the meaning of it doesnât mean anything goes. Maybe you should take your own advice and think about it, because what you are saying makes no sense.
Hypocrite
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