Just started to play warrior, and… I feel like sh*t.
I really like the idea of warrior, but the class feels like bold.
Rogues have invisibility, Paladins have heal and shiel, hunters can pretend to be death, have traps and a PET!
But what do warriors have? Nothing. Lol. Like literally NOTHING.
It feels like warrior is the least loved class of Blizzard.
The animations for warrior looks like in 2004, every skill is the same.
I just don’t understand why warrior is so weak, for example in m+, outlaw and dh have everything, warrior can’t even aoe more than 5 units, that’s so dumb, and we don’t have crowd control, nothing. I think that warriors need a huge rework, maybe not the whole class, but some skills.
Make it compete with other classes please.
You’re slightly wrong… Warriors have a 2005 design paradigme as the devs are, still, afraid of the crazy stuff that Warriors could pull off then thanks to game mechanics that was later made more reasonable.
And that’s the biggest hurdle- Every other class is designed around 2017 and '18 paradigmes while the one for Warriors are literally stuck in the past.
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I think you should at the very least get to 120 before you even start forming an opinion on the class
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I’m sure if you think about it you can find something about warriors.
Although the main focus of warrior is that they are masters at weapons, i guess, which is pretty standard compared to other classes.
I agree on the fury warrior being only able to cleave up to 5 targets, i would like to see true aoe, it promotes spamming whirlwind when there are very big pull, and only using rampage and bloodthirst when you need to keep up the enrage buff.
Don;t get me wrong, fury warrior is a pretty amazing spec, it’s the only spec i would consider more fun without a doubt compared to legion fury, although artifact abilities are missed, but the restricted aoe is not something i like.
I also did not like the removal of artifacts in legion, or in general how they handled the transition between the 2 expansions, and i will not stop saying it until they fix the game.
Fallacy. If something is boring there’s no excuse for it being suddenly interesting at max level; and if it is, then something is wrong in the basic design as something for entertainment purposes have to be entertaining from the start.
Coming from level 10 this can only be trolling. Warriors are one of the stronger classes in the game.
I mean, warriors in Vanilla were/are retardadly powerful.
Look at any streamer or just highlight or random guy doing PvP in Classic.
AoE 5k+ crits are NOT okay.
I was lvling a Paladin, but Warrior always calls to me.
Now that I even got the Mythic bleed weapon it helps, still doesn’t quite fit the whole fantasy. Bleeds are not the way to go.
Not that im saying anything you don’t know, judging by other comments you’ve made and by your achi points, you know it way better than me.
I feel like Warrior SHOULD be bursty, but it pretty much has no burst, which is fine, Vanilla/Classic burst is insane and too op.
Yeah, probably not Arms though.
Yes they were, due GAME mechanics. Non-weapon normalisation was for all classes and Warriors could use it to stupid degrees. It had nothing to do with the Warrior class.
Your finishing statement shows that you have done no critical thinking or reflection at all since you equate game mechanics with class mechanics.
What weapon normalization?
Warriors weren’t using staves or fist weapons.
They were still using swords, axes and maces.
Having access to every skill by swapping stances just meant you could have pretty much everything you needed.
Im disappointed that someone with such experience barely even replies to my arguments, lol.
That is why you have 2 other specs. Even then they are just slightly below average. Unless you are trying to push high rating or high keys it literally doesn’t matter you are 15% behind the top dog.
The weapon normalisation refers to the weapon speed normalisation that capped any instant damage to a max. of get weapon speed benefit of 2.80.
Before that there was none, meaning that the Arcanite Reaper with its 3.80 speed was a lot better than any epic weapon at the time. That was tbe main reason for those insane hits and crits Warrior’s did at the time. I think instant damage abilities back then were based on the weapon damage * weapon speed, making the AR superior to anything since the damage of it was high in order to get its DPS high (weapon damage/weapon speed).
So you saying “wait until you’re LVL 120 to criticise,” is for me hilariously hipocritical since you’ve shown that you’ve no grasp of the history of Warriors in any perspective other than “videos of big hits!!!” At least educate yourself on how those big hits were possible.
Instead, you’ve chosen to show everyone how massivbely ignorant you are by making that condescending statement about me that was disproven by me knowing more fact than you. Weapon normalisation refers to something else than a weapon TYPE expansion (which did come later).
You can heal more than a death knight with fury! 
And who can spin as good with a ballerina twirl than arms?
Warriors bad? Dude, that’s among 4 classes (mage, warrior, paladin, priest) that has done above average if not at the top, throughout every expansion. It’s literally one of only classes that could never be the wrong choice and with a bit of practice could feasibly counter every other class out there ( the only drawback is having disadvantage against spell casters, but who doesn’t ?)
You equate being bad with being desirable. And the Ability bags of Warriors have become boring and stale due to constant nerfs that have remoced the Class identity based on fear that are 14 years old at this point.
If we did all our damage our damage via auto attack and did 1 million more DPS than anyone else Warriors would still be desirable, bad, and boring.
…I DIDN’T say people needed to be x level in order to talk about the class? xD
Anyway, your point still seems rather skewed.
You’re talking about speed? Im talking about RAW DAMAGE.
Speed has NOTHING to do with crit?
If you don’t know about scripting, if you even know what im referring to, try to explain it like that, or don’t try explaining it at all.
What exactly made the weapon hit like that?
AGILITY helped with crit. You know where im trying to get at…?
Was it something IN THE SCRIPT?
How come Fury Warriors don’t crit or don’t crit more than Arms since they are dual wielding?
Skewed.
Stop being a little snob.
You’re right. I confused your post with someone else and for that, I apologise.
Yes it does. The damage range of a weapon is based on Weapon Speed in order to reach the benchmark DPS for the weapon. A weapon if the same item level will have a higher damage range if its Weapon Speed is 2.8 than if it was 2.0 while their DPS remains equal.
You confuse Crit chance with Crit damage abd the latter is based on the damage range of weapon, which again is base on the Weapon Speed.
… This comment does leave me flabbergasted. Arms have a damage increase merely for using a single twohander, else Fury would leave Arms in the dust when it came to damage and DPS. Fury does crit more often than Arms , to the tune of 1%, since they have a second stat stick.
Which is quite rich coming from someone who’s post is oozing with “I’m better than you because you’re wrong about everything because I say you are!” If you really were better, as you clearly think you are, you would have noticed and pointed out the mistake I intentionally left in what I said. The Weapon Speed Normalisation went both ways. Weapons faster than 2.8 would also use the Weapon Speed of 2.8 to calculate their instant damage range.
You should probably try to do more than just log in with arms before you can determine how strong it is.
You’ve got quite the hateboner for arms despite that you haven’t done any content with it.
I did, but PvE is sorta meaningless to me, it’s always constantly ruined by d1ckheads who want “high” numbers to do a dungeon 3 minutes faster, which by itself is disgusting and elitist with absolutely no need.
I do PvP mainly, because I am free to do whatever type of content I want, Arms is NOT a top tier spec in PvP, you can keep telling yourself otherwise, you might be able to see that “Ressurrecting in …” as a victory if you want.
When I said any content, I meant PvP as well.
Hope you’re not basing your opinion on world PvP.