What do you think will happen to retail after classic launches?

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WOW token will go up to 400K and i will make Millions of gold :joy::rofl:

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This crystallises what I think of as the “Human Nature Has Changed” view.

This takes the position the Google, or Video on Demand, or Twitter, or always-on phones, or something, has fundamentally rewired humanity’s brains in the last decade or two, making us all more impatient and less tolerant. And there is nothing that the game can do about that.

The alternative view is the “Game has Changed” view.

This takes the position that as WoW develops more and more artificial systems and staged events, players’ expectations of the game change. When eternal catch-up, hurry-up-and-wait, and “a dungeon on your lunch break” is the priority for the devs, people who find this gamestyle unappealing become less active and leave, and more e-sporty people join and change the social mix.

Of course, both of these are oversimplified and partial models of reality, but the contrast between the views is real.

Personally, I much more stongly relate to the “Game has Changed” view.

I guess we’ll know more in 6 or 12 months.

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I edited my comment seeing as I appear to have struck a nerve.
And whilst it might surprise you I am in fact interested in Classic and I will also fight tooth and nail to see modern WoW improve, however with that in mind I really don’t see Classic doing nearly as well as everyone thinks it’s going to be nor becoming this supposed utopia of Real WoW Players™ that the Vanilla Cult think it will be.

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I dont think classic will be a big success. There will be a lot of hype at the beginning but seeing how much time it takes to go from A to B to turn in a quest without a mount, i dont know if people still have time for a game like that today.

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Pretty much this.

Retail WoW is a game for players who love instant gratification and the ‘GO GO GO’ sperg-mentality of rushing through content as fast as possible. Hi mythic+

I’ve also noticed that a lot of retail players are anti-social and socially-awkward individuals, so even they themselves know that they won’t thrive on Classic because they don’t want to even consider socialising with a community and a guild, especially not with random players out questing. They prefer the silent treatment and LFG tools to take them to their location to get their mostly effortless loot, silently. Hey, maybe Classic was needed all along - no wonder retail WoW turned into the abomination it is today from all of the QoL-obsessed players.

The divide will be noticeable, and while these players claim that we’re (Classic players) wearing “Rose-tinted glasses”, It’ll be a pleasant surprise when reality hits them and they find out that most (yes, I said most) players prefer Classic.

Anybody with an ounce of intelligence knows that this will be the case due to how many players are going to play Classic, and who’re not currently subbed or even associated with WoW at all.

The key point: To those who think Classic will fail, Just because YOU dislike it, doesn’t mean millions of others will.

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nothing will happen .

exackly nothing.

remember by the time Cata landed WoW had already 100 mln people who tried it out and quit.

of now a lot from those will come back try it out and quit in 2 weeks.

and then it will exist there alongside with main game and with classic tbc and all expansion legacy servers that followed vanilla.

its obvios $$$ for blizzard.

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Long term wise, if classic is a success it’s going to be healthier and better for retail imo, I dunno however about the effects on retail on launch, but I’m pretty sure a good chunk of the classic player base don’t play retail anyway.

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Nothing :wink:

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Retail will be absolutely fine.

After the initial hype wears off, most people will stop playing Classic and either go back to retail or quit. That said, I think Classic will be a success and it will have a smaller, but very dedicated audience :slight_smile: It just won’t be a retail killer like some people want it to be.

I think a smart move on Blizzard’s part would be to offer some way for people who resubscribe for Classic to also try 8.2 retail, so that people who end up giving up on Classic could try the current game and potentially stick with it.

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Wat i think will happend: At launch of classic there will be a very peak of players but in long term its gonna decrease a bit but we gonna have a good and stable playerbase.

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Watched cdew stream. Auto attacking dungeon mobs one by one. I had it different in my memory.

Iam quit sad how classic is. I had better memories :frowning:

And I think many will feel the same

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I mean if anything is true is the fact that the player base is not going to be the same player base 15 years ago.

If I come back to classic, it won’t be the warrior that spammed pvp at lvl 49 for quite some time ( Reached stone guard ), who clicked quite a few abilities and didn’t know a lot of the abilities, It would be the player who has reached Glad levels, played with rank 1 players and competed for Rank 1, it will be the player that raided at the hardest difficulties and knows every thing about Wow.

I think this holds true to ALOT of the personalities that will be in Classic, which gives me the feeling that it will be a fake experience, I see a lot of people talking about ganking or challenging or raiding, but the fact is See that Laintime video? EVERYONE is going to have all of those rare consumables, engineering items etc etc, and in Raids that hunter won’t accidently ninja pull or need on random weapons, players wont AFK and players will definitely know what they are doing and optimize it to it’s best.

That’s why I feel that both arguments have merits, but the playerbase has changed one will take most effect, imo and unless I can find a way to noobify myself I don’t think I will enjoy classic, but I’m 110% rooting for it to succeed because if by any chance classic got a 1.13 patch, then you bet I’m getting down there because then I will truly be a noob who sees things for the first time.

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Of course. Perfect.

They could make a BfA Sale to coincide or follow. (I’m sure they’ve already thought of that, but I didn’t. :slight_smile: )

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I’ve got no problem with fighting for retail to succeed. In fact, if it succeeds there is a good chance I’ll like it, and if I don’t I just don’t, it’s not mandatory anyway.

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They will play it for 2 days
Find out it sucks its grindy and old
Go back to BFA

servers will die in under a year

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Aww…it’s almost like you want to see Classic die even before it’s begun :wink: I’ve lost count of the many posts on here by players complaining about rep grind, AP grind - or did you forget that WoW has always had a grind in there somewhere?

I’d like to see a perfect scenario and hope to see both games feed each other

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Classic will have a niched group who will play it regularly, some players will play both, others will stay with retail.

I think once people realize that they do not have any of ease of game play mechanics, they will return to WOW retail.

People also need to see that the powers that be obviously want retail WOW to succeed, hence tying subs for classic WOW to retail WOW. They are hoping that enough classic players and retail players return, plus current subs stay subs to keep retail going.

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Blizzard would be quite happy - getting all the money without doing anything else than porting the old expansions :slight_smile:

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Well I shall play both tbh - AV even at 1.12 is better than AV is now so I shall “hope” to get a game of every now and again (once i’m 51 ofc).

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Nailed it.