To be honest with you, the more I look at what MM hunter is at the moment, the more confused I get.
What is going on with the latest iterations of the talent build for AoE? Trickshots seems to have disappeared and I’m supposed to use arcane shot and my single target rotation. What!?
And in all content I seem to be drastically underperforming, I mean insanely so. And it’s making me feel really stupid, it’s like that situation of not even knowing what I don’t know. I don’t even know where to start, WowAnalyzer seems to have given up on any type of analysis of MM. And then all the removal of WeakAuras and any of the structure and UI I am used to is really screwing with me (I presume no one thought of anyone with any kind of neurodivergance in this whole revamp?).
Why are they constantly screwing with MM every month it would seem to the point I can’t keep track of. Normally I’d just sod it and go to BM but that is so utterly braindead I can’t bring myself to play it so I’m at the point for the first time in 10 years of play I am left with no choice but to reroll.
What the hell is going on with MM and hunter in general? I’m baffled…
Sorry, just trying to figure this out. You say this but the build suddenly changed and I don’t see any explanation of this in any of the guides. If you know where I am up for reading it but it’s like everything changed and I feel a bit like the last one to know.
Trying but the kind of general “oh just get good” doesn’t really cut it. I was fine playing this spec before, and then that ended when my logs, even in normal, are in the lowest 10th percentile as a rule. That’s not normal. Something has changed that I am not aware of.
Just trying to analyse this - I’ve gone from being decent to barely being able to out-DPS a tank and this is heavily frustrating, enough so that it has brought me to the point of cancelling my subscription if I can’t find a fix to it.
i dont really understand what build changed, even after wednesday patch not much changed
trick shot is not worth using, it never was everyone values prio damage over pad aoe
multishot is never used
rotation is written on icy/wowhead just make sure you picking up the correct ticks sentinel, bulletstorm, double tap, volley, its mostly alternating aim shot and arcane shot especially during trueshot window, extent bulletstorm duration
damage loss is coming from canceling aimshot during movement, thats the theory
We are talking about since the launch of prepatch - things have changed around including this whole arcane shot thing. That is my point.
And no, saying that you just “follow the rotation” is like saying playing Liszt’s Campanella is just whacking your fingers on a piano. There is a rhythm and cadence and instinct that even if you memorise the piece note-by-note, it does not mean you can play it.
Perhaps just a me thing though, I have a funny brain, I’m always out of position, always behind everyone else and never quite know why. Maybe my first instinct to just call it a day is the right one after all.
MM feels beyond clunky now, and missing out on Aimed Shots due to having to move, or mobs dying fast, causes extreme DPS loss.
The fact the cast time is so long for Aimed Shot is terrible… and you can’t even move while doing it. I sincerely hope they either let us move while casting it, make it chargeable like Evoker spells, or just lower the cast time.
Some dunngeons MM is just awful, due to too much movement.
Also target switching is extremely annnoying with the hydra build, because to trigger lunnar storm you have to hit the target with sentinels mark to trigger it, making target switching to interrupt etc etc difficult if you want to to optimal DPS.
Its a very poorly designed spec atm.
I personally cant be bothered by it anymore, so i specced BM DR instead. ST damage isnt great, but overall its pretty decent.
Yeah, I’ve literally been through everything, run through the guides again, the video version, practiced. To no avail. Still sh*t. This incarnation is not a match for my brain, despite being told JuSt FoLlOw ThE rOtAtIoN…
I dont know dude everyone keeps telling me to go to IcyVeins and use that rotation but there is no real rotation it’s all “if this happens use this” really unplayable even with 1 button rotation.
This is not living the Fantasy of playing a Hunter and I thought Blizzard was supposed to be making it easier to play, even BM is impossible to perform in raids now.
These types of posts are not helpful “look up icy veins” why isn’t blizzard explaining what to do with the buffs and debuffs?
I’ve been told to go to websites, sim you character, upload logs, download stuff i don’t want to, learn rotation which I am doing perfectly now as I wasted a day learning it literally.
After all that hitting even lower than when i was just button mashing.
Now I’m using 1 button rotation and it’s still low.
This is really bad in my opinion and saying stuff like use icyveins is pointless, it just simply diesn’t work, even Azorthians video on MM hunter and rotation just doesn’t work when put in practise.
reading guides and watching videos is the correct thing to do, if azor is not explaining it well for you try someone else there are plenty of videos about mm s1 rotation
how else one could try and help you with your rotation if he wont see your log, its a must, simming your character is not but if you want an easy answer what piece of item gives you better damage upgrade still you should, i dont see whats so hard in that
if you are not used to a rotation on a spec dont expect to be gold like on it day one, it needs practice, those guys play for years and doing the same thing
btw blizzard tooltip explains the abilities, but for many it still not enough
This is a great idea! Charge it to 100% for max damage, or if a mob is abojt to die you can lose it early. This would actually feel like youre aiming it too.
You know what, I have tried and I have tried and I have tried and I just cannot master this iteration of MM. Practiced, even managed to get 4 set and a mythic puzzle box (a fluke in the vault) and I’m still well down in the grey logs. The cadence between raid/dungeon mechanics and this iteration’s running feels awful. Don’t know why. I’m growing to hate it too, this whole stupid way of building up bullet storm, no trick shots, it’s just bad gameplay, it feels clunky and part of the joy of the game is in the rhythm and flow. And BM didn’t feel why better, it just feels stuttery and show.
This is the worst version of MM I’ve played in my ten years, and simultaneously the worst version of BM I’ve played in ten years which forces me to reroll. And at this point, after the effort, meh quite frankly, I’ve checked out.