What to do without raiding?

In vanilla and TBC I was a hardcore raider and that kinda made me hate it. So in classic I haven’t raided with a guild at all. I just do the pug raid here and there.

But after a while you hit a wall. As someone that doesn’t raid I can’t do pvp, I will just get 1 shot. And after a while you run out of non raiding content. Even after making a lot of alts.

Anyone else in my position? And what did you do? Just quit playing classic?

I like most professions, crafting, farming, quest, journey. Slow without stress to reach a high level .It’s relaxing for me .I also do not like dungeon or raid because it feels stressful and too demanding with the expectations of others in the group. :grinning:

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Unfortunately, in Vanilla, raiding is the only source of gear after a certain level of itemization.

Thankfully this changes with TBC and WotLK but yeah - Vanilla is a bit of a “raid or die” game, unless you decide you don’t really care about all that gear and/or regularly use expensive consumables to make up for it.

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I personally raid log with my main and farm gold with my alt 2-3h a day. Now that my friend decided to start playing classic I also decided to level an alt and level with him together for fun. Honestly, without friends this game becomes stale and boring.

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You can take a break. Nothing strange about that. Personally I love to be the underdog and chase gear as a noob in crap gear while having no gold. So that type of content is never running out for me. I made close to 20k gold in phase 5 by selling stuff I had invested in and got almost bis gear on my Shaman. Boring. So I don’t even play on that realm anymore, I have made an alt on a new realm.

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You can look for challenges to solo, you can make insane amounts of gold, you can do every single quest, you can farm reputations, you can farm for mounts, you can try to get all recipes for a profession, you can get all professions and skills up to 300,you can stock up for TBC and you can level alts and do the same with them.

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This is not true at all. The stat gap between raid/patch tiers in classic is pretty small compared to retail.

You can get a lot of BoE items and combine it with some dungeon blue set items that give a lot of stamina, enchant them with cheap stamina enchants and you will have a good start.
During ranking, you can get to rank 10 pretty casually with that gear and at rank 10 you already have the blue set which is pretty decent for most classes, even some rank 10 items are bis with their 2 set bonuses in current pve raiding.

Maybe do some ZG/AQ20/onyxia pugs every week as well since you can get a lot of gear from there, and some decent weapons. Also you need ZG for the shoulder enchant anyway.
After that find a premade to rank 14 and keep playing. You won’t get oneshot at any point, maybe you start a bit weaker at start but it will pay off.

I got my hunter alt mega geared doing this, not raiding ever(only did 1 MC and got the leaf so my weapons) and I only got to rank 10 with him playing that character like 2 days a week most. If it was my main it would even be better.

WoW classic/vanilla is pretty forgiving to newer/casual players.

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I take a break now from my favorite game EGS, and play my favorite game classic WoW.
When I get bored again I go back to Empyrion play or maybe build dungeon POI, I feel inspired right now by WoW :slight_smile: .Then I come back to WoW again, and then to EGS again lol.

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Here’s a controversial suggestion; play another game.

I can only imagine how some of these posts look like for people that arent into WoW or gaming ^^

“I have nothing to do In the game”
“The game is not fun”
“Ive done everything already”

  • Eh, not like we need or are forced to play.

So yeah, if you wont do the things that enable you to do the things you want to do - quit the game or do them.

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If you don’t wanna raid, then don’t raid. If you don’t wanna PvP then don’t. Maybe take a break and come back for TBC? It’s not fun sitting around in SW wondering what to do all day.

Luckily, I haven’t been in that position during Classic. I never have enough time to do everything I want to do :smile:

  • Raiding on my Main
  • Pug Raiding on my Main Alt
  • Gold Farming
  • Rep Farming
  • Helping Guildies with Quests
  • Guild Funsies to Dungeons
  • Levelling Alts
  • Professions on Alts
  • Bit of PvP Now & Again

The list goes on…

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Challenge yourself to obtain no-raid-gear BiS. See what happens.

I imagine like shadow priests could do surprisingly well.

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Sorry but this simply isn’t true. As someone who has reached R14 during P3 I can say that gear has a huge impact on PvP as well as popping consumes and having engineering. Even when I was ranking the difference between someone in fresh green/blues and BWL gear (especially weapons) IS HUGE. It’s even bigger now that AQ gear is out.

From my personal perspective I feel a lot of players are getting fed up of the game now I’ve noticed a players from my guild who have been really active through the earlier phases are now just raid logging. I’m playing the game less and I notice less players around on my realm. Historically on private servers P5 is when the player base ask for a server reset and the hype dies down as because at that point there’s not really any major content patches incoming only Naxx.

However you can still find things to do in the game even if you don’t want to raid. It seems by your post that you enjoy PvP but just lack the gear and don’t have the means to obtain it. May I suggest that you try out twinking then?

Twinking is the best PvP experience for someone who enjoys PvP but can’t obtain the end game gear from raiding to be competitive this is because there is a gear cap - every class/spec in each bracket has a wall they can hit when it comes to gear and the majority of this gear can be bought off AH or farmed in dungeons or via quests. Not only that but each bracket has it’s own community and discord…I’ve made more friends by playing a twink than any other activity in Classic and had the best/funniest memories from it. It’s at the stage in the game now where it’s often twink vs twink in almost all brackets so most people have equal gear and the deciding factor is skill and team work. That’s not to say there isn’t a lot of toxic players in twinking but personally for me the drama and rivalry between players in each bracket is part of the fun of it. Finally your not tied to any schedule you can log in and play a game then log out or even leave during the game if you have too.

Try out twinking!

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The best part about this game is the community and the role playing aspect, it’s an MMORPG. The character you play can be in many stories of other players.
Sometimes i just run around and try to get involved.

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Where did you start an alt?

Without both raiding or PvP there is not much end game left in WoW classic I think.

Of course you can set different goals (crafting, rep grind), but would be somewhat superficial, as it is not really “needed” for progress and will hit that same wall again when you reached it. Where raid and PvP content is what will be end game in next expansion(s) again too.

If it’s just leveling you like, level more alts, wait for TBC and level them all up again. Though at max level there is that wall again.

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