…that undercut stuff by 50 percent? Hello??? These items actually cost to make not to mention the effort invested to farm a recipe etc.
Thanks!
Hello,
that’s me.
Cause I’m fighting the insane gold fleecing on the AH in my free time.
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People with obscene amounts of GOLD and just want to max their professions as fast as possible maybe ?
Isn’t it the standard bait listing? They get people who don’t pay attn to list items below market value then snap them all up and relist them?
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If it’s 50% lower than it normally is you should buy it and sell for profit.
I undercut when I sell junk crafts. I thought about undercutting myself with my DH as trolling.
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I undercut sometimes, where I want to unload something and don’t really care about the gold that much.
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There are players who just need the gold for something else, and overall it can offset the losses with massive profit somewhere else.
For example there was this guy who had 4700 sunfire silk bolts R3 so yea, a couple hundred R2 low quality item losses isn’t going to cut into his losses by any imagination.
Whenever I come back from fishing trip, I look at AH:
“15-20g for a fish.. I see, I see”
Some random listed couple fish at 4g.
So I make sure to adjust the price to the regular 15g rather than whatever AH suggests, aka 4g. I’m not giving my fish away for ya people just so you could relist it. 
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I just make Thalassian Fillets from it lololol
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Why you upseted for this?
Since what people do it from years ago.
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I expect people still not know it is Last in First out.
I have noticed that in the majority of cases where I post something for the exact same price as the cheapest one, my items either do not sell at all or sell many hours (or even more than 1 day later) down the line. But if I undercut even by just 5 silver, I may sell within seconds or minutes. This has been true for the majority of cases for me for at least 10 years now, and that’s why I undercut by usually 1% of the price of the cheapest item.
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I actually don’t undercut and sell nearly instanteously lol thanks to the modern AH system. Provided, if nobody else keeps undercutting. I’m in no particular hurry, 48h is plenty of time for me to see market movements. R3 Dawn Shards? Up 1k again.
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Exactly, that’s why undercutters on popular crafting materials are mostly bots or gambling addicts. They track the frequency of trades for a bit, then undercut with one bait listing to trick players into selling low, buy up everything, and sell higher. And that on repeat.
I am selling instant without undercutting. No idea why it is different for you. By the way, 10 years ago the system was different. It was First in First out. So you needed to undercut to get first in line. it is changed like 5 years ago (? cant find this fast the wowhead update article).
No idea. But not undercutting has cost me lots of posting fees. So I undercut by a few silver every time.
It changed in late BFA, around 2020. So 6 years, you are correct. I overestimated how long we have had this new system.
Hello, thats me.
AH is a trash bin.
Its a place where I toss items to get rid of them and I think I can get reliably more than vendor price + effort.
I price item so that I get rid of it. Not to get profit out of it.
If you feel my item is too cheap, buy it and sell it. We both get what we want.
Its really not my problem, if you cant make profit in AH.
When it comes to the auction house, there are two things that I do. I normally look at how many people are selling the same thing I’m selling and what the price is. So if, hypothetically, I want to sell a boatload of refulgent copper ore, and they sell for, I don’t know, say 40 gold, and there are over 3,000 pieces at that price, I normally drop the price by one silver. If I notice that there’s the same item, but only 100 pieces being sold, I will just put it into the same price as those 100, of course making sure that it’s not a price that’s ridiculously low, which I’ve seen random people do.
Like, there’ll be a listing of 50 of a particular ore or herb for a reasonable price, and then all of a sudden some random idiot will undercut it by two or three gold to sell the 10 that they got. It makes no sense because that 50 that was on there for that price, two more gold than they wanted, was gone the moment they put theirs there as well. It’s really mind-boggling the way some people undercut without using even the one active brain cell they apparently have at that moment.
I do professions to equip my characters, as well as friends’ characters, or for the occasional trade chat request - which I’ll do for free if mats are provided. I’ll post whatever suits my boat at the time of posting.
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Undercutting is fine so long as there exists an understanding between gentlemen that you can and will undercut only by a little bit, say, 30% max. If you undercut by 70% then nobody makes money. You make chump change and the rest probably won’t sell until they’re forced to stoop down to your base level of ambition.
I’ve seen people on Trade asking for an ingame system that limits undercutting, however I don’t trust Blizzard with this because in a regulated AH market if there’s a limit for the undercuts then there must also be a limit for the max price. I’d rather not let Blizz tell me how high I can go.
No use for such a system currently in regards to a max sell price, as the buyer will make their own choice either way. Go ahead and list Ice Cold Milk for 6 million. See if it sells.
So, no official system. Just an agreement between serious players.
(BTW my auctions literally print money. I don’t complain. This is just an opinion piece.)