But dungeons? So many people wanted to do those. And elite quests…ect…
You can experience the game however you want. But that is not what I am talking about.
I am just saying that everything is easier, more relaxing, and more efficient in this game when you are in a party. That is a FACT. And it dosent matter what you play, or how you see the game.
You choose to shoot yourself in the foot and play solo. That is fair and I am not denying it, or against it. But you cannt claim that doing the WQ/Delve would not be easier, faster, and more efficient if you had a Tank with you (for example).
Even questing in Vanilla. Play a tank, and join up with a mage buddy. You pull 30 mobs and he AoEs them down. Or simply “grabbing 10 bags from the ground” quests. If you play with your buddy, you get it done twice as fast. Or twice as slow… depending on how much time you spend in the /party typing.
Regardlses of how fast/slow you take it, with a buddy is 100% more relaxing. You dont risk death as much and you “win” more often.
There used to be regional chats, like the famous Barrens Chat where people talked… those still exist but people dont use them anymore. But still. It was there since Vanilla. The whole economy is based on Player to Player trade…
And all this means is that WoW is a game made, mechanically speaking, from the ground up with a party in mind. And this is totally different statement than “how you see the game”. Its two different things.
I am not jealous at all. I just wonder why you can party up for a Delve if it was intended for Solo Play.
And “my way” is very much alive. As alive as it was prior to Delves. So I couldent care less about them.
From the beginning they always said it’s for those who don’t want or don’t can play classic group content.
That ofcourse fits solo players but also a couple that enjoys playing them together or that one friend group where two stopped playing and they are not doing of filling there group with randoms.
Fact of the matter is, no game can cater to every type of player (solo, raid, m+, pvp, etc) to the extent as to fill up their whole gaming time. And that’s fine. There are other things in the world. Including other games to play.
You are responding to ME. Not to “other people”. And 2M completed keys implies 2M x 5 == 10M non-unique toons. So of course there are not 10M players by a long shot. But I am also sure its not the same 10 guys and their 1000 alts responsible for the 2M keys run.
No. But neither do you. So I cant claim nobody does Delves. But you cant claim everyone does them either.
What I can do is compare how many people are doing the OW events for the coffer keys, compared to how many people are in a summoning stone of a dungeon. And the difference is stark.
And on the other end of the spectrum I’m drowning in content. Trying to burn through my stash of delves key to max out my pve gear through delves and lvl up my Bran plus get all seasonal reward from delves track. And do the “Let me solo him” achie.
While also gearing up for pvp to get myself vicious mount and at least one vicious saddle through rated blitz.
Also working on maxing out my professions (btw is there better way of getting knowledge for blacksmith than patron work orders?) and finding time to farm some mats and fish - gold farming always relaxed me when done in moderation.
Than there are also reputations to grind. I’m still not exalted with even one cartel. Would also love to find time for LFR Undermine to get that rep aswell. Oh and farm up some crystals to actually be able to buy all rep mounts, pets and toys I’ve unlocked.
Ehh and when I’m supposed to find time for achievement hunting and exploration - finding out various hidden treasures and flavor npc/objects. And the rares. So far I only had time to get 3 of 10 crystals for Alunira not to mention some other rares that drop mounts, toys and pets.
And dont get me started on my multiple alts - there’s never enough time to lvl them up. Speaking of things not from this expansion I still have list of older x-packs content I want to do: class hall quest lines, max renown with all covenants, older rares and treasures, doing all bosses from Kyrian Arena etc. Ehh there are also some Horde side Kalimdor quest lines I’ve never done before Cata came so I should go back to my troll hunter on classic.
There is more I’m sure that I forgot to mention but this list is long enough. Off to egg hunt with me, there is some new stuff I want that I didnt get when it was on trade post (sunflower staff for example).
I will say, I took a 6+ months break from wow where I’ve played a lot of GW2, and I will keep playing GW2. But they’ve really nailed it there imo. By never increasing the ilvl, means that all content ever added is evergreen content.
But they have the long farms of legendaries that give you awesome QoL perks, but no extra power.
And with every expansion and patch more “casual open world content” is added, and as the old content never becomes irrelevant, there’s not really enough hours in a day to do all of it anymore, so there is always something to do.
Sure, can argue that ones you have every legendary it could become a bit dry at that point. But for any sensible player that’s years away if you start now.
But where GW2 falls short is their dungeons, old school dungeons and fractals just can’t compete with M+ for example (imo)
If it could, I think i’d be 100% done with wow tbh.
You should use your gilded for crafting instead of upgrading anything. Doing nothing but delves, upgrading to 658, and crafting 675 pieces every two weeks you’d be 665~ right now. Season cap including 4set tier around 672.
In my opinion it’s not easier and more relaxing at all. And even efficient is debatable; with people going afk, slacking and talking more than playing, etc.
If I have to spend 15 mins looking for a tank and healer to go do a quest, then that’s a waste of time. I’m better off doing the quest myself. For example.
I would have to find a tank. That takes time and effort.
Then I have to play with them. That takes patience and effort and good will.
Even with good friends it can be problematic. Scheduling is ALWAYS a thing because everyone has things going on in their lives.
It really isn’t as clear cut as you make it sound.
No, YOU see the game as being made with a party in mind.
That’s not a fact. SOME CONTENT was made with a party (or raid) in mind, sure.
Anyway, what matters is, is what they’re doing now and they’re clearly making an effort to give solo players things to do (albeit with varying success).
Because ‘Blizzard’s going to do dumb things’. They always do. Partying in delves is a mistake, pure and simple.
That’s just factually not true.
It’s ‘fine’, sure. But it HAS lost people. That’s a numerical fact.
You do care. Because you’ve been adamanent for a while that Delves should ‘stay in their lane’ when it comes to rewards and such.
People complain every season that there is no content and they r right. Some dungeons only have three bosses, and some of those don’t even feel like real bosses (like Priory’s first two). If there was more to do, no one would care about gearing fast. It’s just boring now.
This would have the exact same negative result as abolishing the key system for M+: The only delves anyone would run would be the optimal in terms of reward-per-time-spent. And then we’d have complaints about lack of variety.
Yes please.
That has not as much to do with Delves themselves, but is mostly a result of the catastrophically horrific class design (and this is already exalting the situation).
We already have open dungeons and raids. Making an open Delve is just a design choice. I could argue that Excavation 9 Delve is open. The ceiling is 100m+ in the air. It’s no more inside a cave than The Ringing Deeps are.
It can. It is deliberately not done so because of massively significant monetary reasons. Why allow a player to do ALL content with his time when they can design the game to allow to do only 1 and entice buying boost for the rest?
Im sure you can make up another excuse for being groasly missinformed.
