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[Shredssheds-chamber-of-aspects]

youre asking would I join the army in an effort to persecute and dominate others … no I wouldn’t

[Ãnna-silvermoon]

Why not you’ve had plenty of practice on the forums

[Alexima-kazzak (Alexima)]

I honestly could care less about RPing.

As long as something is fun to do, why not?

So if this guild provides decent world pvp for me, helps me do stuff and is overall a social guild, then sure. I see no problem with joining.

But if it’s supposed to restrict my gameplay, prevent me from doing things because it’s against the RP code or whatever, then no. Not interested.

My character can be a gnome for all i care.

[Gatherix-tarren-mill (Gatherix)]

1. “Would you or would you not forfeit your identity…” - > No, unless you can get Blizzard to make Vulpera Druids.

2. “Seeing this, would it inspire you to create a similar…” -> No.

#VulperaNeedsDruids

[Thodric-anachronos]

Would you or would you not forfeit your identity to become a part of a larger entity (a hivemind of sorts with no guild master, but lots of officers) in an online videogame, provided the community offered you free gear boosts on a weekly basis, as well as a friendly environment, custom PvP/PvE events, etc?

Nope, my individualism is part of who I am and this arrangement you describe would have nothing to give me on an emotional level. I greatly respect and value the benefits of being in a group, but I’ve never been a “joiner”. Any group I become part of needs to respect my individuality. In my mind, a guild is a group of individuals who work together for the overall benefit of everyone in the group.

Seeing this, would it inspire you to create a similar organisation, perhaps with night elves, draenei, tauren or something akin to that?

Absolutely not. Groups work best with diversity.

[Abominatîon-argent-dawn]

Woah, so many replies so far! Thanks a lot for your input so far, I will try my best to answer all of you (Also, I forgot to mention, I will need about a minimum of 100 replies for my study to be valid. So far, you’re doing a great job!)

Alright so:

As a extremely casual RPer on AD I’ve been killed few times by some eager Scarlet Crusaders and I really like the idea, and the ally hatred chat is very comical sometimes.

1: I wouldn’t right now, maybe a few years ago I would. I barely play anymore as is so having people wait/depend on me to show up for stuff is something I can’t promise anymore.

2: If(when?) factions could group up I’d love a DH only guild to serve the master.

Really liked the video, has a vanilla vibe to it… maybe it’s the music

I am glad you’ve had, as a fellow AD player, a few fun encounters with us! I hope to see you again one day soon

Back on days we had all-druids guild, did some raiding too. I would totally do that again - have all druids crew for BGs and some light hearted PvE.

An all druid guild – covering tank/healer/rdps/mdps role sounds very amusing! It seems to be a very cool concept, and I do wish you could reenkindle that kind of guild. We could truly have some fun interactions.

1 For change I can do that. IRL don’t care.

2. Making guild is too much hassle so no.

Could you, perhaps, be more specific about the first part? I am sorry but English is not my first language.

One question, how do i join?

Hey, since this wasn’t a recruitment thread, I forgot to add that! Sorry! To join us you could create an undead male character named Abomination (with appendixes) on Argent Dawn (or transfer a character and rename it for free) and whisper any of my guild mates, but the best way of joining would be by contacting our Guild Master via Bnet (MilanGrujic#1256)

When you can’t win at rbg and don’t have enough nerves to play arena.
When even wPvP against other PvPers can be a little too much…
You can always create a PvP kill squad to farm people who RP with wm on…

Brilliance
/clap
/s

Hey, absolutely not It’s just another form of having fun. It would really be helpful, though, if you could input those 2 questions I’ve asked. It would honestly mean a lot to me

I think first question on this quote asks completely different thing than second (bolded part), even wording is suggesting bolded part is first question in another words? What do you actually want to know?
What does “unorthodox guild” mean, does it mean making other players life misery or does it means doing other content than raids? What about players who don’t play for curve, are they already “unorthodox” or do they answer this question considering possibility to throw away their normal wow life and starting to “unorthodoxcally” raiding? What do you mean by “niche ways” of having fun?

By quality of your questions I am assuming this is not actual research but cleverly hidden advertisement for your guild, but in case it actually is research, you have to clean up your questions to be understandable only one way and put in all the information you are supposed to when doing research (ask from your school if you are not sure what).

Hey, I will try to explain it better here, and as I said, English really is not my first language, so the question might have been a bit vague. So to simplify, what I had in mind when asking about joining an unorthodox guild was: Would you join a guild that is mainly concentrated around doing an activity which does NOT drop lootable items like, for example, raids (not to say we don’t do mplus together, though). So, in short, joining for the community and fun times, not for your own character’s progression gear wise.

As for your assumption, I’d have to answer: negative. Every day we get about 1 new member on average, so we’re in no shortage of new people, but more are always welcome. General Discussions, furthermore, as I remember, are not used for recruiting, but for… well… General Discussions like this here survey.

When 8.3 hits, if there would be a mecha-gnome guild focused on similar activities, I’d join with my mecha-gnome hunter in a heartbeat. I would even make sure I have the “serve n’zoth” toy, to be able to attack my own faction from time to time.

REMOVE THE CURSE OF FLESH! And not just from Gnomes, from everyone, because King Mechagon was short-sighted. We need to save them all .

A mechagnome only guild, thematically put right, would be glorious You would even have more OP passives than us, The Forsaken. I encourage you to start such a guild and meet us on the fields of battle!

youre asking would I join the army in an effort to persecute and dominate others … no I wouldn’t

We, as you put it, “dominate” and “persecute” others who have opted in for war mode, which means giving consent to all kinds of PvP, including ganking.

I honestly could care less about RPing.

As long as something is fun to do, why not?

So if this guild provides decent world pvp for me, helps me do stuff and is overall a social guild, then sure. I see no problem with joining.

But if it’s supposed to restrict my gameplay, prevent me from doing things because it’s against the RP code or whatever, then no. Not interested.

My character can be a gnome for all i care.

Hey, this is a nice imput and I will probably, together with the first reply on this thread, use it in my research as a template.

P.S. Our guild does not restrict you in any way. The only goal here is to have fun together, in a group, while not breaking the ToS. Ganking people with WM, be it RP or not, is not against the ToS. We’ve spoken to several gamemasters about it. However, we do not spam toys or mounts on them once they turn it off. We’re here just for the funny PvP gimmicks.

1. “Would you or would you not forfeit your identity…” - > No, unless you can get Blizzard to make Vulpera Druids.
2. “Seeing this, would it inspire you to create a similar…” -> No.

#VulperaNeedsDruids

Thank you very much for your feedback!

Nope, my individualism is part of who I am and this arrangement you describe would have nothing to give me on an emotional level. I greatly respect and value the benefits of being in a group, but I’ve never been a “joiner”. Any group I become part of needs to respect my individuality. In my mind, a guild is a group of individuals who work together for the overall benefit of everyone in the group.

An absolute treasure chest of an answer. Thank you!

[Radium-dragonblight]

Would you join a guild that is mainly concentrated around doing an activity which does NOT drop lootable items like, for example, raids (not to say we don’t do mplus together, though). So, in short, joining for the community and fun times, not for your own character’s progression gear wise.

Ahh ok i understand. My answer:
I am running such a guild. Our main activities are chatting, saving eachothers from caves we have got stuck (it is so much easier to sneak in than to get out!), drag eachothers lvl 1 alts on multiplayer mounts to events they have no busines being in at lvl 1, ressing them after participating to the said event, talking bad stuff about weird aunt, sharing cooking recipes (and disasterous attempts to create new ones), hoarde items on our banks for decades so when one of us finally decides to craft primal batskin gloves then surely someone digs out mats for those. We have all either hugged or punched (or both) eachothers several times in our lives. We are irl friends and family guild. We never do anything that is worth any currently valuable loot. And i wouldn’t change into any progression guild ever. Been having fun since 2005 and still going!

[Tinkspring-argent-dawn]

A mechagnome only guild, thematically put right, would be glorious You would even have more OP passives than us, The Forsaken. I encourage you to start such a guild and meet us on the fields of battle!

Perhaps I will, perhaps!

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

Would you or would you not forfeit your identity to become a part of a larger entity (a hivemind of sorts with no guild master, but lots of officers) in an online videogame, provided the community offered you free gear boosts on a weekly basis, as well as a friendly environment, custom PvP/PvE events, etc?

No, I would not. In fact I’d be insulted if someone would ask me to ‘forfeit my identity’. No way would I let that happen.

Seeing this, would it inspire you to create a similar organisation, perhaps with night elves, draenei, tauren or something akin to that?

No. I have no interest in the type of activities you mentioned and like I hopefully made clear in my first response; I value individuality.

[Crisswyn-outland (Crisswyn)]

forfeit your identity to become a part of a larger entity

No.

no guild master, but lots of officers

I don’t mind this part.

Basically, would you join an unorthodox guild, which focuses on a niche way of having fun in the game, instead of getting curve/edge in every new raid tier?

I’m all for fun. Not gonna give up on my identity for it though.

Seeing this, would it inspire you to create a similar organisation, perhaps with night elves, draenei, tauren or something akin to that?

Wait a minute… is this hidden racial segregation within WoW?

Oh and no, I’m so not inpired in replicating this. lol

[Abomïnation-argent-dawn]

A lot of people saying how they’ll lose their individuality, by sacrificing their identity to be a replicate of everyone else! but really thats not the case at all!

I’ve found being in this social experiment for a couple of months now, and having sacrificed my characters identity to match everyone else has allowed me to settle in this community, and create my own individualness, and bring my own ideas to the table; far more than i could in any standard guild!

I find the concept of this Social Experiment creates a tighter bond, as we’re forced to be more coordinated; mostly due to our high risk raiding on a 70(A)/30(H) Realm, and our consistent mythic plus runs to gear one another; brings the real friendship, and uniqueness to the group. + the excitement of raiding and being picked as a ‘target’ by the opposing faction; now thats picking out the individual!

I would encourage other servers to attempt an experiment like this, and the bonds you make with players are great! Along with the competition it generates with other players trying to go up-against you!

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

A lot of people saying how they’ll lose their individuality, by sacrificing their identity to be a replicate of everyone else! but really thats not the case at all!

I’ve found being in this social experiment for a couple of months now, and having sacrificed my characters identity to match everyone else has allowed me to settle in this community, and create my own individualness, and bring my own ideas to the table; far more than i could in any standard guild!

I find the concept of this Social Experiment creates a tighter bond, as we’re forced to be more coordinated; mostly due to our high risk raiding on a 70(A)/30(H) Realm, and our consistent mythic plus runs to gear one another; brings the real friendship, and uniqueness to the group. + the excitement of raiding and being picked as a ‘target’ by the opposing faction; now thats picking out the individual!

I would encourage other servers to attempt an experiment like this, and the bonds you make with players are great! Along with the competition it generates with other players trying to go up-against you!

Honestly, it’s great you’re enjoying this, but to me it sounds absolutely horrible.
Herd mentality to the max. It makes me almost mad; I just want to slap some sense (and self worth) into you guys.

[Abomïnation-argent-dawn]

Honestly, it’s great you’re enjoying this, but to me it sounds absolutely horrible.
Herd mentality to the max. It makes me almost mad; I just want to slap some sense (and self worth) into you guys.

I can understand why it wouldn’t be appealing to everyone. For me, personally, its seeing the reaction from players on the other end - when they see a large group of players, named the same, dressed the same, 100% identical; charge at them! That reaction gets me through it, all of It creates a great fun atmosphere!

I’m confused why it makes you feel ‘almost mad’, however…? There is a lot of sense in this social experiment to me, as the idea is clear. ‘Confusion’ and ‘surprise’ being two of the many key goals.

[Podruge-lightbringer]

could input those 2 questions I’ve asked

I would not abandon my identity.
And I would not do a community, just cause I am not a leader.

[Bukachu-ravencrest]

When you can’t win at rbg and don’t have enough nerves to play arena.
When even wPvP against other PvPers can be a little too much…
You can always create a PvP kill squad to farm people who RP with wm on…

Brilliance
/clap
/s

I got acne on my face watching that YouTube vid lmao

[Cróws-defias-brotherhood (Cróws)]

@Abominatîon-argent-dawn

So you could say we became rather infamous on our realm, as you can see here

Beautiful.

Wouldn’t mind having an alt for a guild like that, but I’m afraid bfa grinding have worn me out too much for me to start another character and gear it up. I’m simply afraid that I wouldn’t be able to devout myself to it as much as it would deserve.

[Podruge-lightbringer]

That’s how you know it’s good
When you want to become more like an the author

To OP:

Great job on the video, chad.
Keep em coming

[Thodric-anachronos]

I’ve found being in this social experiment for a couple of months now, and having sacrificed my characters identity to match everyone else has allowed me to settle in this community, and create my own individualness, and bring my own ideas to the table; far more than i could in any standard guild!

I’m happy it works for you, but I’m just not cut out for that. I would make a disruptive, impatient and unreliable member of such a group as this. I would never say my way is the right way, or the best way, but it is who I am. We play the cards we’re dealt, personality-wise, and my personality means I’m much more comfortable doing my own thing most of the time. I’ve tried playing WoW in other ways - I see the benifits and rewards, and I see that in some ways I’m missing out - but it doesn’t work for me. Nobody’s fault, nobody to blame, just the way it is.

[Tahra-earthen-ring (Tahra)]

I’m confused why it makes you feel ‘almost mad’, however…?

Well, the answer to that is two-fold:
First of all, the thing you describe here:

its seeing the reaction from players on the other end - when they see a large group of players, named the same, dressed the same, 100% identical; charge at them! That reaction gets me through it

I despise that sort of behaviour. You’re having fun at the expense of other people’s fun. That’s just not okay.

Second: The idea that someone would expect me to drop MY fantasies, my identity, my creative drive just to be part of this group. It feels wrong to me. It feels like a cult. And if anyone would try and recruit me for such a thing I’d kindly tell them where they can stick it.

[Vilem-argent-dawn (Vilem)]

Now, I’d like to take this opportunity to ask you guys two questions so that I may find more answers for my sociology research

I can’t wait to see your lecturer’s reaction when you hand them a hastily written essay about trying to grief people in World of Warcraft: a Videogame.

Are you going to include the part where your guildies scream racist memes and slurs on discord?