Projektvorstellung Flügel an Flügel - WoW mit blinden Menschen spielen

Borchen-norgannon · 10. Oktober 2021 um 07:30

Falls Jemand schon alle Quests im TBC gemacht hat, und alls Mobs und NBCs „persönlich“ kennt, kann er sich mal bei "„Flügel an Flügel“ als Kartograph und Routen-Zeichner bewerben.
Sucht einfach nach „/Who Sku“ auf Lakeshire Allianz.
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Skuwop-lakeshire · 15. Oktober 2021 um 13:58

Hallo Leute!

Flügel an Flügel hat den 1. blinden Level - 70er hervorgebracht. Mich! Ich freue mich sehr, es geschafft zu haben. Vielen vielen Dank an alle Flügel, die mich auf dem Weg begleitet haben und an das tolle Team des Projekts!

Sku

Borchen-norgannon · 27. Oktober 2021 um 09:26

Wenn ihr neugierig seid, wie das ganze mit blinden Spielern funktioniert, so meldet euch am besten bei einem Sku* Char TBC-Allianz-Lakeshire-Server.
Oder fragt einen andern Char an, aus der Flügel Gilde …

Cyberwolf-nazjatar · 24. November 2021 um 14:30

hallo, könntest du nochmals einen neuen discord link schicken?

Borchen-norgannon · 24. November 2021 um 14:33

https://
discord.gg/pdqpF2s5

Holyy-venoxis · 25. November 2021 um 07:46

Tolles Projekt! Echt schön zu sehen wie ihr euch gegenseitig unterstützt. Wünsche euch allen viel Spaß in Azeroth.

Horagat-2604 · 27. November 2021 um 10:57

Super Sache, echt klasse, dass ihr sowas macht!
Ich drück euch die Daumen, dass eure Community wächst und vor allem, dass ihr weiterhin viel Spaß im Spiel habt!

Waah-celebras · 28. November 2021 um 12:07

Hey, vielen Dank!

Wir könnten tatsächlich deine Unterstützung brauchen.

Es gibt einen Bug in WoW, der uns sehr stark am Vorwärtskommen hindert.
Eigentlich betrifft er alle Accessability-Funktion in allen WoW-Versionen. Sogar die neuen Ingame-Vorlesefunktionen in Retail.

Der Bug führt dazu, dass das WoW-Fenster bei jeder einzelnen Sprachausgabe kurz einfriert.

Ich habe ihn hier sehr ausführlich beschrieben:

github.com/Stanzilla/WoWUIBugs

[Bug] [All clients] C_VoiceChat.SpeakText freezes the client on every call

offen 10:15PM - 07 Nov 21 UTC

geschlossen 11:38PM - 19 Jan 22 UTC

Duugu

Bug Mainline

### Applies to - All game clients (tested with Retail, TBC, Era, SoM) - All OS… plattforms (tested on PC, Mac) ### Description of the issue Calling [C_VoiceChat.SpeakText](https://www.townlong-yak.com/framexml/live/Blizzard_APIDocumentation#C_VoiceChat.SpeakText) leads to a freeze of the whole game client for 50-100 microseconds, per call. ### Prove - Login to any game client on any plattform. - Do something to have some constant noticable action on the screen (eg. auto running). - Use the following script: `/script C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just a test", 6, 1, 100)` You will notice a very short freeze of the client (the character won't move, etc.) The following script calls C_VoiceChat.SpeakText every 0.1s and exposes the issue even more clearly: `/script C_Timer.NewTicker(0.1, function() C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just", 6, 1, 100) end)` ### Severity Annoying for everyone, game breaking for visually impaired users with accessability addons. Every addon that is using the ingame TTS via C_VoiceChat.SpeakText is affected. Even the Blizzard accessiblity features like TTS for the chat. Enable the chat TTS, join a busy channel, and you will recognize those constant short freezes on every single new chat line. That's not that annoying for the Blizzard accessablility feature, or for addons like boss mods, as they don't constantly using C_VoiceChat.SpeakText. #### Additional details on severity for accessability Accessabililty addons are using C_VoiceChat.SpeakText a lot more. Example: My addon features lists, where the user can move through the list using the arrow keys. On each move the current entry is utteranced. The users of course move to other list entries very fast (they are used to it). No just once per second, but many times a second. There would be many calls of C_VoiceChat.SpeakText per second, and that leads to a really inacceptable amount of freezes, as the freeze is on every call. Due to that the TTS via C_VoiceChat.SpeakText is not usable for real world accessability scenarios at the moment. Many of such scenarios do require to utterance a lot of text that changes in high speed (visually impaired users are very fast on using / getting audio content 😊). The required extensive use of C_VoiceChat.SpeakText leads to heavy client freezes, making the game unplayable for them. Here are two videos, showing the real world issues. The are about one of my accessability addons. It provides an audio menu, listing a lot of waypoints, where the user could select on of those waypoints. It's in German, but as it just is about the concept that shouldn't matter. In the first video I am using my own custom build TTS engine (that is using [PlaySoundFile](https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/API_PlaySoundFile)). That's how it should be: [https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aqgp3J_s6MM7iKNqwACraFGdVzlZOQ?e=V2xI7a](https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aqgp3J_s6MM7iKNqwACraFGdVzlZOQ?e=V2xI7a) In the second video I've replace my custom TTS by the ingame TTS, using VoiceChat.SpeakText: [https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aqgp3J_s6MM7iKNrCFd35oX2PJb6pg?e=T4rVDa](https://1drv.ms/v/s!Aqgp3J_s6MM7iKNrCFd35oX2PJb6pg?e=T4rVDa) That lag / freeze is from VoiceChat.SpeakText. :/ ### Addtional findings - Calling C_VoiceChat.SpeakText with different arguments for voiceID, text, destination, rate, and volume changes nothing on that freeze. Apparently it's there with every possible combination of arguments. - The duration of the freeze seems to be independent from the text that was passed to VoiceChat.SpeakText. The following example leads to the mentioned short freeze: `/script C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just a test", 6, 1, 100)` The following example leads to the same freeze: `/script C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test Just a test ", 6, 1, 100)` - However, if VoiceChat.SpeakText is called multiple times in a single update circle, the freezes are incremental. Calling it 5 times in a row leads to a noticable longer freeze (like 200 ms instead of 50 ms): `/script C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just", 6, 1, 100) C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just", 6, 1, 100) C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just", 6, 1, 100) C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just", 6, 1, 100) C_VoiceChat.SpeakText(0, "Just", 6, 1, 100) `

Uns, und allen anderen Leuten mit visuellen Einschränkungen, wäre wirklich extrem geholfen, wenn du die Entwickler irgendwie auf diesen Bug hinweisen könntest.

Danke für deine Unterstützung!

Borchen-norgannon · 15. Dezember 2021 um 14:06

So sehen die Routen ( noch ohne Horde) für das Schlingendorntal aus:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807653714872631378/913078769680535612/Schlingendronthla-Routen.png

system · 13. Februar 2022 um 14:07

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