It’s possibly an advantage to buy e.g. a high rune for some forum currency instead of dopping it. But this way you can get really poor quickly. Because the prices are really high in the early days.
And btw. bots have nothing intenionally to do with that forum. This fail logic would lead to the conclusion, ebay is a platform for selling illegal drugs because some people sell such drugs there.
Also du nennst das nicht cheaten, dass Leute durch andere Leute scamen oder/und einfach Forumgold kaufen (was btw GEGEN die TOS verstößt wie z.b accountsharing) bei einer NEUEN LADDER Tag 1,2 oder 3 sofort fast/perfektes Endgame gear haben?
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Paying real money to pretend to be better than everyone else is not cheating.
The botting is, scamming is and believe it or not buying is cheating too, since it’s against blizzard’s ToS buying something for money on a 3rd party site (like buying gold from a chinese bot gold farming company in WoW which is basicially the same thing with d2jsp).
Here How BAD is D2jsp? | The Truth about Diablo 2's Largest Trading Community - YouTube
Skip to 7:05 or watch the whole video
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Cooley who is botting and cheating himself and promoting it, seriously? That’s like when I would ask Dr Disrespect if Guilette is good give me a break…
But here this Lee guy answered him very good
Lee: D2JSP does effect the pricing of gear on ladder resets though. It effects the pricing of extremely sought after items like high runes, things that in vanilla D2 are EXTREMELY hard to find, and are way harder to find than a random unique like a shako, making it so those that have amassed massive amounts of forum gold on previous ladders to quickly obtain these items by outbidding everyone who does not have forum gold, increasing the price of these items in the early ladder, exactly when everyone is looking for these.
For the one person who actually finds a high rune and trades it for a lot of forum gold, they may think its fine, but there are many other people that are being outbid for these items by someone who isn’t even playing the game and will probably feel a bit salty about it.
The idea of having a trade site is fine, but the rolling over forum gold on ladder resets is a problem.
Cooley: Can you identify who the “victim” is when someone buys an item for tons of FG? Who gets hurt by this and how?
Lee:Sure! The “victim” in this scenario are all the other people who are starting the season fresh, 0 fg, being outpriced by these whale D2JSP users.
I’ll give you an example. you have say 10 people who are playing the game normally, not using D2JSP, or all have virtually 0 fg, another person who finds a high rune, and lastly someone who is a D2JSP fg user who has rolled over their fg from last season.
The person who finds a Jah or Ber rune, obviously in a normal circumstance, they would be able to only trade this item to the 10 people who are playing the game normally, maybe some of them have a few mid runes, or a shako, or a nice eschuta to trade for it, something that they worked for in game.
In comes this D2JSP whale who can just offer an insane fg offer, one that is impossible to obtain without rolling over their fg from last season. This whale can corner the market for high runes, especially in the early to mid ladder. This scenario makes it so the normal players who are starting out fresh have almost no chance of getting a high rune or high value item until later on in the season.
These whales can keep doing this every season. They also corner the market for high priced dueling gear driving the prices up higher and higher, because only players like them can afford it.
But yeah you and the other cheating andies are right there is nothing wrong with this site /s
I know it sucks and hope that Blizz would stop all of this, but from what iv seen how they manage bots on WOW, I have lost all hope. Maybe Microsoft can bring it to the end.
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Yes totally agree esp. the asmongold video which went viral where he was in zandalar on a certain spot with 2 or 3 full RAIDS (40 man) Boomkins on auto pilot I mean wtf?..
Yeah i saw that video. And when they all got “Banned” I bet they just got to a different layer instead so it would look good.
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You smoke weed ? GET HIM! 15 years! /highfive!
yeah pathetic… I dunno where ya from, but here in germany if someone BREAKS INTO YOUR HOME/APPARTMENT AND YOU DEFEND YOURSELF AND THE PERSON IS HIT (like a broken arm/leg or cut wound) YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR personal injury compensation good joke that isn’t a joke right? 
According to the police you have to show the person/s where your goods are, that they get out ASAP and pray they don’t knock you out/kill you and THEN you are ALLOWED to call the cops xD
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We live in a society where rights of criminals are given more respect than the privacy of they victims. Its all downhill from here
Ein System zu missbrauchen, heißt nicht, dass das System ein Cheat ist. Die wenigsten würden dort Euro ausgeben, gerade weil man ganz easy auch für unzählige drops Forumwährung bekommt von anderen Spielern. Mit Accountsharing hat das übrigens gar nichts zu tun, da muss kein Fremder in deinen Account einloggen.
Und wenn einer völlig überteuerte Preise zahlt, um als einer der ersten jede Menge High runes zu kaufen und top gear zu haben… ist das doch sein Problem. Das machen andere und verstoßen auf ganz andere Weise wirklich gegen die Regeln, indem sie auf Plattformen gegen Euro einkaufen.
Eine Plattform mit übertragbarem Spielgeld hat sich nur so lange gehalten, weil das eine Brücke zwischen allen möglichen Spielen und damit enorme Freiheit darstellt. Für den, der High runes so schnell wie möglich haben will und auch für den, der eine droppt und bereit ist, sie lieber gegen was anderes zu tauschen.
Btw. this doesn’t change anything for a “fresh player”. A dropped high rune costs a lot of forum currency - or a lot of Ist runes (20+ for Ber). So anyways the “fresh player” has to have luck and drop the high runes himself.
Btw. definitely not impossible. I dropped Ber, Lo, Cham, Sur, Vex, Ohm since D2r started. Joining games 4+ players and running through lower kurast opening boxes. And I’m not playing very active.
I have a question to the people here who are against d2jsp:
How do you trade items worth more than 40 Ber?
Rarity doesn’t equals worth. People who buy items for 40 Ber are victims of external Websites that enable these kind of prices.
There is not a single item in the game that would justify 40 Ber runes.
Even a JMod can be crafted for much less than that ( on average its 7 or 8 Ber i think ) and only a small number of people even seek these kind of items.
So without external Websites the demand for these items would sink even further and drop the price. You could argue thats good or bad depending on the person you ask.
But as people have stated it doesn’t make sense to carry over forum gold each season because a season is meant to be a fresh start. Forum Gold effectively counters that. And you are also able to Buy/Sell forum gold for real money. Effectively increasing the prices for items even further.
So everyone who is new or didn’t use jsp before is loosing here.
That’s one of the reasons i don’t trade anymore. Because ingame trading is nearly always people scamming you to sell on jsp
d2jsp kept d2 alive. It was the central meeting point for all d2 players and made trading easy for everyone. Yes you can get an advantage by spending real money. But without jsp there are still overpriced itemshops that people will use. People will find a way to gain advantage with money.
None of my friends used d2jsp. This kind of statement can’t be proven or disproven. So it yields no value at all.
Also the damage d2jsp caused can’t be measured aswell. I could argue d2sjp killed ingame trading and thus the game
I didn’t see you supporting your recent post with raw data, i won’t go as far as you and say it’s worthless though. This isn’t science, of course my statement was my point of view.
A good example is that i haven’t stumpled across one pvp tournament outside d2jsp past 2010 when europvp closed its doors.