No. Money can be transferred into anything. But you need third party ways to exchange forum currency to rm. And the main reason why the “forum gods” are banning for this is… they are hard concurrence to the rare cases where people are buying forum currency.
The website isn’t violating any ToS. Very reduced the users do when they use their site as external auction house. But to decide this, this may require lawyers. Not only because users can provide a detailed history including buying forum currency vs. rm. If that’s not in history, there’s no involvement of rm.
No. Because only idiots or new users buy fg for Euros. The base of users drop things, sell these and buy other drops. And use the options of an auction-house-style system. And the permanent risk that the other scams.
99+% of the users get their currency from earlier drops. There’s no widespread real money involvement.
In my world, I’d prefer selling my drops at the beginning. With the forum you get the chance to get realistic worth and buy e.g. ist runes for a sold Ber from different people instead if requiring 1 guy having 30ists.
Try to refute my argmuments. You didn’t with anything you said so far.
Here that is stated in the FG FAQ of D2JSP:
Buy Items - Much like selling your items, you can also purchase items with Forum Gold in the various trading forums. If you see something you like, you can post an offer on it. If later you find that you don’t want it or don’t need it you can just retract your offer, but you cannot retract your offer after they have accepted it.
Nope. This passage just says that you can sell items vs. forum currency as well as buying them for it. And regulates the basics of a contract. The site itself doesn’t break any ToS, because it never accepted the ToS nor requires connection to the game service.
“MAY”. Nobody denied that they offer this. But only a few very new beginners would do. Its too easy to get sellable drops instead.
“It isn’t because I say so”.
Provide atleast some logic. Your type of people hides behind wording and not context.
I have 100% clearly proven to you that people who use d2jsp violate the ToS by selling/buying items. I have been linking you the necessary quotes.
The websites doesn’t hide it’s connection to real money yet you say forum gold isnt connected to it.
It is also clear to everyone that people use their currency from past ladders in current ladders. Yet you claim that you have no advantage with less currency.
You are a liar. And a Troll. Sad but thats the truth.
You didn’t refute a single argument of me but still challenge my statements is that the way you argue? Just repeat yourself until the other person gives up.
I have proven that this is definitely not “100%”. Because a “sale” in legislation means transfer into real money.
Nope. I said it’s a one-way-transfer. There’s no legit way to transfer fg into real money.
Nope. I said that only few people pay rocket prices at the beginning of a season. I didn’t deny people can use earlier earned fg that way. Can be seen as an advantage. I see the advantage that the player can sell his drops for that rocket prices. Without having extreme equipment. For the average player, waiting few weeks before equipping himself can make sense.
Lol, and 1 month after is better for you? Obviously djsp users are not real gamers, they just are selling theirs souls for some FG (in france fg mean france gay)
Those users don’t know how to play the game, they need assistance.
A game where you need to find item or trade, they goes for real money in exchange for some fg then beat the game. Pathetic ^^ If I was working at blizzard, I would create a jsp account, collect bnet id for 2 month, then ban everyone
Not where i come from. You can accept whatever you want. Even coupons or food or another service in exchange.
And that is usually the case for every mayor western country since you can have direct or indirect sales.
And why does it need a two-way-transfer? Name any RMT website that provides items directly by themselfes. It’s literally the same thing
Either you didn’t understand what i was trying to tell you here or you are lying.
D2jsp is against tos because you trade item with fg which can be bought for money. Saying not many people doing that is lying because almost everyone there have their own “donation” stars. If the site admins are not earning much and they are serious about honoring D2R tos let them simply reset all fg and disable buying the fg with money.
Else let Blizzard delete this thief site which only exists by leeching off Blizzard products, and pro hint eBay does not exist solely for Blizzard games, stop making those stupid comparisons.
They actually offer their auction service for nearly any multiplayer game, not only Blizzard products.
And within the fact that they are technically absolutely divided to any game client, there’s no legal way to force them close.
Yeah that’s what we call gray area cheating bs, but blizz could at least monitor their own game when people get annies torches hrs and what not, without trading anything back, but I guess they’re to lazy for that aswell. No wonder that modders like Greendude (Pod) and Senpai (PD2) and a handful (unpaid) people get more stuff done than a dozent (paid) employees just fking embarrassing.
Kinda sad we need a SSF Ladder in a (intented) 8 player group arpg, but due to an overhauled loot system, tolerated (by blizzard) cheating inside and outside the game, nobody wants to group.
I am having such a hard time trying to follow you guys… Try to bring some rigor in your arguments, Rusker. It’s not about what you suppose or think people do or should do because you do it yourself. It seems to me you’ve found some low energy mode to play the game, it works for you, and you take it as a standard. Even if it were, that’s not the point by far. It’s not about what people do, it’s about what they CAN do.
D2jsp enables you to transcend seasons, carrying over progress. You can skip the hows and whys. That’s unfair advantage. End of story. I want to play ladder for the “clean slate” feeling. I am stripped of it because I can see people who have more resources to play around with from the get-go. They ruin my experience by defying the seasonal ideology and I am against that.
The fact of the matter is that this unfair advantage CAN be further exploited and monetized. I don’t care if it’s on D2jsp, eBay, or whatever. I don’t care how many players do it either. It’s there and it shouldn’t be.
All that chatter about what you need to farm, efficiency, etc. is simply irrelevant. Let everyone play their own game. Some will optimize efficiency, others fun, or effort, or social aspect, or whatever. Some will optimize real life profit. I’m fine with that. I just want the equal footing.
Wrong conclusion. What makes you give an advantage, is the trade function itself. You’ll never find a “fair progess situation” you’re dreaming of. People will anyways find a way to make others give them high runes for progress if they want.
The situation of your desire would be a season with any trade function deactivated. May be an idea for a special season server. But not for all players, because for most the trade function is essential.
This is ladder by design. If I can’t find it, there’s a problem. That’s what we’re fighting. Trading is not the root cause. Trading with stuff outside of ladder, however, is. FG is stuff outside of ladder, as is real money. That’s why RMT is illegal.
Well, its definitely not illegal, because if that would be the case, you could go to a police station, tell them about the “crime” and they would then start an investigation.
This is a computer game, and you are talking about things that might not be in the interest of some players or the company that created the game, but hey…
And second: Blizzard Activision has a huge compartement of lawyers, they get paid just for checking if there is anything that might hurt the company and is not right.
Look at WoW-servers etc. If they can act against someone, they will.
Either it doesnt hurt them at all and they dont care, or they simply can not do anything against d2jsp. The site is around for 20 years.
