Frozen orb vs blizz

Hey.

I know its been asked already, but I didnt want to revive.

im running a chain lightning sorc, but now, in hell, ill have to make it hybrid.
so everyone says frozen orb is better than blizzard for hybrids, that blizzard needs more synergies.

but heres the thing: cold will be my secondary, so I won’t have synergies anyhow. blizzard lvl20 nets twice the damage of FO lvl 20, with no syndergies.

so why do people overwhelmingly recommend FO for hybrib builds?

Because you need less skill points to max out FO (it only synergizes with ice bolt, while blizzard synergizes with ice bolt, ice blast, and glacial spike). To fully get blizzard to be more powerful than orb, you need to invest 40 more points than in orb. You won’t have those points, cus you need to put them in the other element tree. Therefore, for hybrid, FO is better.

it’s not about synergies, it’s simply better magic for one or two targets, that’s what you’ll need to kill a couple of targets immune to your main magic.

It all depends on what you want for your sorc

for me its down to pure DPS and MF so i have maxxed out frozen orb and its synergies, the mobs i kill to MF are easy to accomplish, if your a team player then TBH this dont really matter either as where you cant kill an imune set the other team players can. I tried to have 2 main atacks when i first made my sorc, but going dual made her weak,. Now my merc has uber items on and he takes out the cold imunes within a few hits.

I would take frozen orb over blizz anyday as it single targets the boss you want to take out
unless you want an AOE then go with blizz

thanks for the replies guys :slight_smile:

well but thats where I get lost. weather its AOE or not, ill take the cold immunes down faster with blizz just from the higher damage, no?

does FO get better casting speed or something?

sadly im on a budget so I cant really afford a merc that can reliably help me take the immunes so I gotta go hybrid for now.

No FO just hits the target in front and all that it passes through
Blizz hits random targets in an area but does alot more damage
Cold imunes are imune to either unless you got conviction aura and -cold items like a cold facet

what lvl are you ?

oh blizz attacks random enemy? id assume it does where your cursor is…

im level 62 currently. 20 in CL and lightning mastery, 17 in lightning, and I just started cold, so orb and blizz lvl1

It doesn’t matter anymore with 2.4 you can spam both at the same time and I thought blizzard can’t make sorc more powerful Clueless me.

orb has a cooldown
but maxing out both will leave you short for energy shield/telekinesis and teleport

2.4 patch notes

Skill Req Level Changes
Frost Nova 6 * Damage level scaling increased by about 25%.
Blizzard 24 * Casting Delay will no longer share its cooldown with other skills that have Casting Delays.
  • Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay.|

|Frozen Orb|30|* Casting Delay will no longer share its cooldown with other skills that have Casting Delays.

  • Tooltip updated to now display Casting Delay.|
Shield Spells
Skill Req Level Changes
Frozen Armor 1 * Base duration increased from 120 seconds to 144 seconds.
Shiver Armor 12 * Damage level scaling increased by about 25%.
  • Base duration increased from 120 seconds to 144 seconds.|
    |Chilling Armor|24|* Damage level scaling increased by about 200%.

  • Duration bonus per level increased from 6 seconds to 12 seconds.

  • Chill length bonus per level for level 16+ increased from 1 second to 2 seconds (matching Shiver Armor).

  • Defense baseline increased from 45% to 60%.

  • Defense bonus per level increased from 5% to 7%.

  • Frozen Armor damage synergy increased from 7% to 9%.

  • Chilling Armor damage synergy increased from 7% to 9%.|