Sooo…I finally made my first Enigma ever and hopped in and respec-ed my Smiter into a hammerdin.
Hoto,Shako,Enigma,Arachnid,umed upped HoZ,wartravs,magefist, Dual 30%Nagel, Mara. Weapon Swap CTA and a Spirit in a normal Rondache with 39 res.
The issue is at following. Currently I stand at 80FCR(breakpoint is at 67%)…the next breakpoint is at 125%. I only see two ways in achieving that:
- Dich the HoZ and use a 35%FCR Sacred Targe with decent res(in order to minimize Dex investment to reach 75% block rate) and a 10%FCR ring
- Find a +2skils +FCR Amulet, 2 10% FCR rings and a +2 skills +FCR Circlet
Both of them involve big investment. The question is…should I try? Or should I try rerolling that rondache until it rolls a 35? This raises another issue…Using therondache will involve a bigger investment in dex to reach 75% block.I don’t really enjoy the hammerdin, but my smiter paladin was my only high leveled char besides my trusty blizz sorc. I am planning on making a Pitzerker next to try and find the Griffon that eludes me.
TL;DR Anyway…should I bother reaching for that 125% FCR breakpoint or should I stick to the HoZ and deal with the lower tp speed.
Opinions from your own experience are more than welcome.
L.E: I already have a 35% Spirit Monarch that I use on my sorc…Is that an option having in mind the heavy hit my resistances will take?
Just found an akaran rondache 44res…gonna try rolling a spirit in that and see how it works…
try to take 125 fcr breakpoint for hammerdin. cirlets can be very good 35 fcr spirit with pala shield very nice amulets with fcr nice too
The faster fcr breakpoint is definitely worth it in terms of farming efficiency, both for p1-p8 and on the specific farming spots (even if just farming trav which would requires the least amount of teleporting to get to) and if you plan on pvping there is no comparison. I can only find 1 argument against it which is that you stated that you don’t enjoy the build. Burnout leads to even more inefficiency than a bad build does.
From the items you stated you already have, you should currently be at 90 fcr, leaving an additional 35 to be acquired. The two methods you stated are both valid but I think option 1 would be less of a sacrifice and also cheaper. Losing a socketed shako and maras is a heavy hit. I’d also recommend trying to roll a 35 fcr spirit on a pally shield as opposed to using the one on your sorc. This will free inventory space for charms so that you either need less dex, can go +skill rings as opposed to res rings or carry additional mf charms.
Another reason i don’t like option 2 is because it converts 4 skill point from all skills, to just pally skills, so your cta shout takes a hit.
Lastly i think the question of whether or not you should go max block depends on what you intend to farm and on your pvp intentio. So thats a bit tricky to answer at this point.
Bare in mind that this is just an opinion that could be proved wrong in the future, additional research is recommended before any investment.
Hope this helps and big gz on the enigma.
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After playing a couple of hours it grew on me a little. I don’t plan on pvp-ing. I only plan to farm in p5-p8 games.(pits, trav, chaos, shenk etc). My conundrum is as following. If I go with spirit on offhand(for now it is rolled at 34 fcr so i will need 2 fcr rings until I roll a 35), I will sacrifice the damage witch comes from the +4skill from Hoz and impact the MF. 60% less Mf from giving up the 2 nagels. on the other hand, I could compensate that with mf sc, as the inventory is gonna get free. Currently I am using 5%FHR charms to reach 48% breakpoint. With spirit this will be solved. I will experiment today to see if the speed vs lower damage, lower life is efficient enough in p5+ games. To be honest the only place I feel ‘the need for speed’ is in popping chaos. It’s always on the edge with the timing. Cheers.
My mistake, I misunderstood and thought the spirit on your sorc had 35. In that case definitely rock the HoZ until you roll a 35. What runes are you mainly missing for rerolls? I might have a few to spare. Also how much mf are you currently running with? It might be worth considering swapping out the naglerings for +skill. Unless I’m under 250 mf id usually sacrifice 50-60 mf for an additional +2 all skill.
Just respected. I am using a 34% spirit in a Rondache wit 39res and 2 nice 10% FCR rings with res and stuff. There is no comparison. Indeed I have 1k less damage(12k vs 13k damage with 4 +1 combat charms) and 400less life after bo(2600vs3000) but I recovered the lost mf from dual nagels with small mf charms(currently 320mf…decent amount), cause I don’t need the FHR ones anymore. I will Larzuk the 44 akaran rondache i found and try to roll a 35%spirit in that. Not as good as sacred targe but I prefer selffound than trading for it. Thanks for the advice…the 125% is definitely worth it. I will tweak it, but for now it is decent. At the moment I don’t have Soj or BK…they keep eluding me like many other uniques…at least I was lucky with runes. :)))
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Nice, sounds like a plan. Glad you like it, I so far havnt heard of a hammerdin or bone necro that went 125 fcr and ever went back. I feel you with the rings, the amount of manald rings charsi is sitting on is probably enough to be smelted and sold to cover the entire us national debt.
On my hammerdin i go for pally spirit instead of HoZ. it also has +2 to all skills so you will only miss the +2 to combat skills which HoZ offers additionally.
Sacred targe would be ideal of course for best block chance base. But other pally shield works also. Your primary goal should be rerolling for 35% fcr. The MF from shako is just too good, you will well reach 400-450 MF with this setup. And damage is still sufficient. I reach almost 14k on hammers.
You should definitly go for 75% maxblock when having holy shield active as you will tele into big mob groups and get tons of melee attacks in your face.
so easy and trivial this game…
in D3 there are threads like this one with hundreds of comments with lot of calculations about how to improve a build, here: 75 or 125 breakpoint? - go for 125, sounds better(ofcourse, 125>75…). but nobody calculates with e.g. how much in x% overall damage is increased from going from 75 to 125 breakpoint…
go with 125% cause you have teleport . It will be a smoother experience . Without Enigma it doesn’t change much . The raw dmg you loose you will get it back in dps and faster repositioning.
Anyway both are viable .
Wow really?? D3 is about the easiest arpg of all time, not sure why im actually responding at all, but here i am. in D3 you are weak until you complete one set which multiplies your damage by one quadrillion, then you add some more gear that adds some more multipliers and you’re done within 1-2 days into the season since all legendary/set items raining from sky like nothing. I have played d3 almost every season and i cant remember one single time i had to calculate anything, LOL. This game is ridiculously easy and stupidly straight forward.
Dont tell me there is one inch of depth into it
Good first instinct.
Ignore Danutz…he is a renowned troll on these forums. He is never ever going to add anything productive to the debate.
Of course. He also knows this. If you look what he posted in the past on the D3 forums you’ll se it’s the same m.o. Complaining about everything, and only flame and provocation.
Don’t lose your time…and most important: don’t feed him! Cheers.
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what is the maximum greater rift level you reached?
125 fcr is definitely worth it as you already found out. I found out that I die faster with Spirit so more advanced options are definitely worth looking at. Also a good caster amulet would be a thing I guess, but also hard to craft one. Over time one explores all options anyways.
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Agree…much more squishy that with Hoz…but on the other hand I grinded with my blizz sorc for the equipment on the hammerdine so and I am used to being extra careful. 