How much do you think the price of a SoJ will drop?

How much do you think the price of a SoJ will drop when they change the current way of spawning Diablo clone?

that depens on what they will change. if they just make it a global event, then probably nothing will change. those events will then be hostet at times where the least amount of people are online.

if they cbange the mechanic from soj to something else entirely it will certainly lose a lot of value although it will remain a solid caster ring

oh CONSIDERABLY (and thats a good thing for the casual player base). Basically EVERY Anni you see is the result of 120+ Sojs deleted from the game today, but for only ONE anni in return correction - as many anni’s are produced from soj’s sold as sellers involved in the niche organized event, but those wont be limited to events organized by only a minority anymore so with it being more accessible to casuals, it’s going to be dependent i think on how many anni’s are produced in relation to soj’s sold.

The cheapest Anni’s go for Ohm+ (at the cost of 120+ sojs)

If they change it so that soj’s are not needed at all, then every account really only needs 2 soj’s to complete any possibly caster build and the price should settle down to Vex+ to Ohm since its rarity is equivalent roughly and still desirable but not being deleted from the economy like runes, and as thousands of soj’s will no longer need to be deleted for the creation of a single anni any anni’s.

If sojs are still required but its server wide D spawn, then 120+ sojs will actually create many more annis than before if that many ppl are online for spawn…obliterating the market value of anni (because instead of 100 soj’s creating 1 anni niche minor events being created for anni’s it becomes available en masse, it can be 100 sojs = 5000 anni’s as an example), making it very accessible for casuals. - Soj’s will still be valuable (only perfect anni’s will be valuable) and soj’s will probably be around Ohm to Lo as they will always have value for builds but they’re deletion from the game will be GREATLY slowed

So…depending on the change and its relation to whether soj’s will even be needed to how many anni’s will be produced from soj deletions (if any) it could go from Vex+ to Ohm+ to Lo on the high end. But def not the ~Sur value it has today

For ppl that complain the economy will be in shambles (and other hyperboles) it wont have an effect on the economy, just the value of those 2 specific items - soj’s and anni. And the economy will adjust (there’s always a demand for both of these items, especially P anni’s, its just not an expensive or profit making item anymore)

Edit: Thanks for Wonka pointing out the very obvious brain fart i had resulting in the edits, but still not changing the point (too) much :stuck_out_tongue:

this information is wrong sir.

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why would they host when the least amount of ppl are online? to stymie the value degradation? its inevitable and if they hoard sojs’s to artificially slow its eventual value degradation then public forums can just start hosting easily since it will be global - after all, getting 100 ppl in a blizzard / reddit forum or even when a streamer is streaming and doing ā€œgiveaway’sā€ to incite a clone spawn for as many of their viewers as possible…social media can get around this SO easily.

It was harder before when 95% of ppl just didnt even know how to do it cause they’ve never had to do something like IP searching before in their life, but with the barrier to entry being removed, there cab be a community events that are logistically easy to organize with no insider knowledge required - have an soj? pipe up and find other with an soj and when you have enough ppl get them all to agree to a time-day since everyone is going to want in on it for mutual benefit

i dont see it being hosted during times of minimum traffic by the minority (like it is now), i see it being hosted during times of HIGH traffic by the majority who ALL will profit - you just need to be able to kill d clone - thats all.

you’re right - the organized events ensure as many anni’s spawn as ppl involved in the soj selling - i erred on that part…i dont believe it makes much difference on the rest of the point but you are correct in pointing out my mistake - ill have to edit it

well even if it is changed, we wont even know if its gonna involve soj’s.
they might even make it single player style.
if thats the case SOJ value will rise due to the search of the perfect anni.
until we know the new mechanics, everything else is just pure speculation sir.

This is also what I am betting on… I was wondering if I should invest to get one or two at the current price to use them in my builds…or just wait until they get to a more affordable price once they announce the new Diablo clone spawn mechanics. I don’t need them in order to participate in any anni hunting as I already have a decent one.

i am not sure but i can’t wait for the system to change. the anni system is the bigges bs system in the game. why do i as a player need to join a certain IP class and sell soj in a ā€˜clique’ of smart guys to sell sojs together? this smells really bad to me and i can’t wait for the changes.

good point, but i dont see the soj value increasing even more - there’s already always a search for the perfect Anni and on top its done in a very niche market which is part of the reason for the high value of SoJ today, and while you are correct that it becoming an individual thing will keep the soj value high, i dont see it being even higher than it is now.

I believe the soj value will be tied to the anni value as long as 1 is required for the other. In the past (and in other markets) we see the extremes being pushed further apart - with less than perfect items (anni’s/torches) that are available in masse being extremely cheap and the perfect versions becoming even more sought after if the effort to look for them is easier. Casuals will just buy cheap anni’s for cheap and sojs will cost little more than those same way keys cost is related to torch cost with P torches being very valuable but keys getting cheaper as more ppl settle for less than perfect torches.

Only a few ppl hunt for perfect gear, most settle for whats ā€œgood enoughā€ for the cost. i do see sojs’s coming down to Ohm value (Vex at the cheapest) and Lo on the higher end (at least at the start) and settling into Ohm Vex after a few months…

speculation of course

im wondering if i should sell my sojs right now and then try to get new ones when they’re cheaper…i could get a ber for my 2 sojs now…but i do need them as well lol. i dont see 2 sojs being worth a ber in the future…

its residual of a problem from 10 years ago but not now…i REALLY question the design decisions of the mentality to retain systems that have literally no place in today’s system - we arent having an soj dupe problem…why retain a system for a dupe problem? for Purists? Purists dont care about systems for problems that dont exist anymore, they care about the feel and authenticity of the game 10 years ago without turning it into a modern game with modern game design elements that cater to different mentalities…but archaic fixes for issues that dont exist aren’t a concern on anyone’s list…

The standards flags from the Ubers could be incorporated? They should serve a purpose. I also collect them lol. Why I don’t know just in case one day they become useful

Price of soj will back to Vex, thats my prediction :wink:
Yea, standard of heros might be key to DC event.

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I always though that SoJ, without the current Anni mechanics, should be around the same price as a Bk. All around…with the emphasize on life in the game, Bk could be considered the superior ring.

I think so, too. Highrunes will get much cheaper, too.

If original d2Lod ladder would be any indication, then it will be like one high rune for around 4 Ist. Starting from Vex (Vex was a little cheaper, around 2,5 Ist I’d say).

SoJ will be at about the same price as a mid bk. 4 Ist.

My guess is, that they take out the SoJ completely for the dia clone. SoH is a hot candidate for something similar. Im not sure if collecting SoH right now will help, though…

I can always hope. Hahaha. I have quite a collection now. Some may call it obsessive!