Hello there. I recently have bought d2r, about, 30 days ago actually.
I haven’t really played diablo 2 that much since my childhood so i finally got d2r and i started playing hc right away because that’s just the kind of guy i am. But now here 30 days later i have lost not only 1 but 3 characters by pk’ers which trick’s, lure, exploit, cheated me into doing stupid stuff. Like i sit up the whole night and play d2r online in a hardcore “open public game i even myself has created called come n chill” and this person which seems nice ask to help me out and everything is fine, he is however 60+ lvls higher than me, we clear act1 together on nightmare difficulty and nothing seems to be “wrong” but then in act2 this person sends me a portal to lost city waypoint and when i entered i sit in a loading screen for like 2 sec and as soon as the loading screen is done that person has press’d hostile against me(i figured he stand in town at the time i entered that portal) but yeah before i have a chance to react due to tiedness and what not in my personal life — > I am dead. Hours of grinding gone…
I then remember and recall some of my back childhood memories and this issue is or has still not being fixed today? I mean what’s up with that.? Why is this allowed when i just want to play with some other randoms or trying to get some new friends to play with, to have some fun with, against monsters, bosses,.
Yeah i know iknow there might be those people which will come here sayin oh but i could just have choosen to play “Softcore” when i clearly like hc more because i want to have that fear of dying in the game and losing my character and my stuff which i has spended hours on grinding but this thing here is just really dumb… (I can accept dying to internet loss, or lag spikes, ect) But A duel should not be a one sided option but should be two sided, especially in a freakin game okay. If i wanted to duel a person i should “accept or decline” that duel instead of being trick’d by someone which has made their whole life a career just to inflict and/or to watch pain being done towards others. There is no sportmanship in such a nonsense duel and i don’t understand why this “personality traits” are even allowed in this game, not only are it destroying gamer experience for some if not the most but also destroying developers intentions itself which i assume is to get more players to play their games and not by forexample making brand new players or non experienced players which still choose to play on hardcore to rage quit the game entirely because someone random has chosen you as their main “target” and targets you openly in any public games you make, not only is it unfair but also after you maybe been grinding for hours, you might not be so “fresh” or thinking to much over when people joins your game and then suddenly out of nowhere person screw you all over. I mean, Wow!.. People that normaly likes to watch or inflicting pains towards others are having the traits of a what?? I don’t even wanna say the word but we all know which kind of person that could be…
Most games today are both pve and pvp based in 2022 but developers has made duels two sided for a reason so i just wonder. Why has this issue not been reworked yet? Maybe i miss something big here but if hardcore is just a duel contest where people go into all the open public games to hostiles people which are 30+lower than themself or like, well i surely hope maybe developers should really start banning some people and see if they wake up because if not i am forced to behave like The Bad one! (Don’t worry will never happen) but i am just sayin every person as a line there shouldn’t be crossed!
I want to play the game. Not to abandon it and let a bunch of silly persons slip away with such toxic behaviors. But ofc i don’t has the finally straw here. But if it where up for me to decide this game had two sided duels where both partners had to agree before tp’ing them into a brand new duel arena, big enough for making people tp around or regain some life with a shine, ect.
Edited: Where is blizzards “Trust factor system” im not talking about vavle but it’s pathethic that you have a game where as soon as someone joins your “open public game” there is trust issues involved… This may not be in softcore but it’s a big problem in hardcore! It make no sense! Make duels two sided in hardcore please so those who at least wanna play pve not has to be worried about randoms joining their open public games! Thank you! I mean there are some of us who just are being friendly and wanna help or play with others in a non hostile world without having to make “Private games” that is not being friendly u know? Instead i close to game for more random friendly players to have fun with or die trying have fun with!
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Back on my day I used to make PVP character and keep hunting pkers. You hostile my toon once and it is your biggest mistake.
No its the most amazing thing about diablo. If you get hostiled you can always ESC leave or return to town.
Back when there were no loading screens sure, but if you don’t have an SSD or have a crappy one you can easily die during the loading screens.
I went down into pits and had an unusually long loading screen and when the loading screen was over i was surrounded by dual archer packs with fana and might aura. Guess my merc found em for me. I didn’t die but if i didnt have cta and a decked out merc i think i would have died there. (This has nothing to do with PK i know, but loading screens can really screw you over that is my point)
Yeah it’s so amazing it makes people leave the game… It’s so amazing that people will eventually stop making public games and everyyone will be forced to sit and play with people they trust in private games. Amazing! Do you even realise how ubberly silly and dumb that sounds? But hey if u want to keep having these freaking monsters who only make builds and put skills for entirely to go into open games and press hostile in every fk game there is “open for public”… Interesting way to see things… I hope you meet and these pk’er target you soon enough and you are forced to make only builds specific to target all other players in the game just like they do! It’s game breaking. Let’s see how fun that will get next season when u can’t play in any open games anymore because of this reason. It’s not hard and by good internet it means you can play pretty much all regions > join all open games on each region > press hostile (Stay in game) (all leave) > repeat untill there is no open public games> go new region> and just repeat that style…
Oh and if someone want to duel you when you have a build which are made for PK and pvp against pve builds Nice i think they not wanna do that but let’s see how things will work out! It’s gonna be a interesting season two i can already tell. Because this is what people will start to do eventually. If it’s not fixed people will end up in privat game or playing alone… Then maybe when all complain about it they are forced to fix it.
It is not stupid. You have to learn to play, and if for any reason you cannot then you can chicken and stay in town or exit game if you don’t have town portals.
Its best play with klan members or from the Community where you know them.
Always best to say that any public game you go in there are pkers and never go into
anyone’s TP who you don’t know as it might be flooded with mobs
this guy loves it
Don - D2R Hardcore Barb PK Highlights - YouTube
I read your post and your totally right. But there’s a simple solution: Just don’t play hardcore. I played HC only back in the days, but nowadays i decided that i don’t want to waste hours of gameplay because of…
- lags
- bugs
- pkers
- bad portals
- incompetent teammates
- my wife entering the room and hugging me in a bad moment
If there is something people (like pkers) can abuse they will do. Its the same in RL. Just enjoy the game in SC and forget about your bad experience in HC. If someone would call me chicken for thinking like that, it’s OK. I don’t need to proof myself anymore. That’s the benefit of getting older.
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Pvp sucks in every game. Sucks especially un this game. Pvp focused games drop dead months after release. Its funny watching the loud minority praise their hardcore nature and aggressively belittle their softcore counter parts when at best pve keeps pvp afloat. At worse the game drops dead cause it was hardcore pvp.
Yeah league of legends, Valorant and Apex Legends are clearly dead xD. People don’t avoid hardcore because of PvP. They avoid it because of the shitty netcode implementation where you lose months of progress to a lag or a DC which can be caused by blizzards backend aswell.
People back in the day enjoyed the option to be an outlaw. Killing other people was part of the RPG element of the game.
If you can’t see that there is value in this kind of behaviour then don’t play hardcore in public games. There are already so many ways to avoid this. The person who initiates the pvp has a ~8second WP restriction and their own TP’s vanish. So you have 8 seconds to go back to town or leave the game.
Don’t play with people who can oneshot you. Most skills deal reduced damage in PvP, so limit the lvl range to something similar to yours and you should be fine. Don’t trust strangers, play with friends instead. And lastly it’s not that big of a deal to lose a character. Season will reset progress anyways. Learn and grow as a player that’s more fun than asking for changes that would affect everyone
I agree and i just ignore those people who repeat same standard bs
For some reason they think all has “friends” to play with.
But that’s just not the case and for some reason they seem to think that it’s totally fair that for someone who just want to play pve with others are allowed to “Kill” in “known” d2 ways, ect… But all knows that this thing totally destroys it for many players i even bet some softcore players actually wanna play hc but does not because of this reason only other than lag/spike, so therefore it’s breaking players experience (Which im pretty sure blizzard not want their games to be like) and some players they just leave the game for good because of this reason. If d2r players actually want more players to play the game. Pk should not be a thing in the first place. It should be a duel u had to accept i totally agree. It would also make the game more friendly for new players even those who wanna try “Hardcore” for the first time. Imagine being a new harcore player and someone just pk you after 40hours or so and the game should not be like “Oh someone joined my open game i don’t know, so now i have to be worried about a potential PK’er.” And “Oh you can’t trust anyyone” but man what are the point in playing in open games if you can’t trust others and it’s pathetic that there is “Trust issues” as soon as someone random join your open public games… That just make no sense at all and it’s more frustating than fun!
I don’t see why people think it’s okay just because it has been a “thing in the game for years”. That does not justify that pk should be allowed or force all players to play “softcore” or “Solo/privat in hardcore if you dont have friends” that’s just a stupid excuse for pk players to continue to slay kids in hardcore, streamers, ect. And most of these fk’ers they not “Duel” they kill you in unfair ways, like pretending to be a friend, helping you for a while before killing you and so on. They even write on their alt accounts on forums like this, that it was your own fault for leaving town, it’s your own fault you trusted a random, ect. and downvote your post because they not want two sided duels because then they can’t get their daily dosis of fix. They a like addict junkies. Probally even has rouge community where they gather infomation about how to pk players, who to hunt for forum gold, ect.
Let’s say someone: Trash talked you inn the game, now you go into this http rouge community side, make a bounty 1000 forum gold, gives info about your player name, which region you play and your account name.
Now 20-50 pk players will hunt you on every “public game” you make or more than 1 pk player joins the game to make you think or feel more secure… Worst part is there could be 100 of players hunting you and you don’t even know it!.
@Shac and @ThekindOne And you guys are asking for changes for everyone not only yourself but ignore that people opt in to play like this. You are the loud minority. Get better and stop asking for game design changes.
PK is part of the game get over it. Kill the PK later and be the Hero thats part of the game aswell. But weak people like you ruin games all the time. I love the invasion in Elden Ring. Would you remove those aswell? If you are not completely braindead you don’t lose anything.
PK also gives us the chance to kill bots in public games which are hosting baalruns/sancruns and dumping down the hole meta to AFK XP leech. Removing those mechanics will lead to the same bullshit that is happening in softcore
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People are allowed to express their opinion and ask for change, this wont probably happen I might add. but justifying pk to kill bots LMAO your delusional
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Asking for changes was never a problem. Saying it’s the only way how people can enjoy the game is. Maybe focus on arguments instead of being personally attacked by logic.
You can PK Bots and thus remove the bullshit advertisement in afk hosted games but as a softcore player you can’t understand basics stuff like this. Enjoy the braindead carries in your public games
There are a few red flags you need to look out for. They are much higher level, and eager to help. They make a lot of TPs fast for you to get wps seeming to be great guys.
Watch out for ANY location just outside of town. This includes Spider Forest, Bloody Foothills, Lost City, Blood Moor, and Steppes in Act 4.
Their technique is to lure you into that area and as you’re trapped in loading screen, hostile from town and kill you.
Basically, you can’t trust anyone seeming to help at first glance, and never take a TP to a level outside of town. Walk over and make sure the TP isn’t outside town (you will see it on your minimap).
Also if you need help rushing your char up, you can message me I’ll help. It sucks to lose a HC char to this. Happy to help you catch back up.
Xemas#1157
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Xentis welcome to my list over poential pk’er
In all “open public” games i see your name or your account name next season.
I will join, press hostile and try kill you 
Cya on the battlefield.
Regards
TheKindOne
Good luck
Don’t be mad when you lose your stuff pls
that’s a long statement for a great mechanic in the game hahaha love the hostile button every times its hit makes your heart go… Hardcore ofc
how does this kind of message can be seen as threatening ? 
more weird than anything.
Especially considering you can’t “search” player to see what room they are in, and that the nickname is based on the character not the account…and most of all , it’s a video game…
There is an online game called Archeage in Japan where you can kill other players at any time. Unfortunately, there are perverts in Diablo 2 and America who like to play such games.
As a countermeasure, you can request system improvement or create your own coping method.
First of all, I would like to express my condolences for the loss of your alter ego.