Seems that PvP is the only end-game in D2R, but is good enough to spend lot of time to farm BIS items for it?
First question, does anybody play PvP currently in D2R? Honestly I even do not know how to start a duel with another player.
Then, I saw a video where a guy explained “the rules” for PvP, lime clrearing the area of mobs before dueling, LOL. Or, no drinking life potion, not using items that increase max resistance and/or absorb like RavenFrost, LOL…
So whats this? Is PvP so poor in this game?
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PvP in this game is from 2000. It’s a bit different than what you may be used to. There are old bugs people used to PvP with like invisible bone spirits and guided arrows, it was in the norm during PvP to know about these bugs to avoid being killed by them or use them to your advantage.
For Public PvP games you can forget “the rules” and bringing +max res and absorb to these games is a must.
There are players that even PK, they join public games and try to kill the people questing.
There are also anti PK, they follow PKs and try to kill them. It used to be quite intricate back in the day with guilds and all.
Everyone follows their own rules.
There were different guilds that followed different rules for PvPing.
There were tournaments with different rules and websites with leaderboards dedicated to the PvPers.
How it will be in 2021+ is anyone’s guess.
If you’re interested in PvPing, maybe find a guild or group somewhere and explore it a bit. Not all duels need to be with max chars in the best gear time can buy.
Noooo. PVP items require 10+ years to farm… and it is impossible because Lo rune doesn’t drop in this game, kek
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i remember back in the day one of the most expensive pvp items were the full inv of sc, and i mean the legit ones post all the hex charms, occy rings white rings etc nonsense.
Sad to hear that PvP is actually a garbage in this game, everybody said is the best PvP… …
Then it seems no end-game for D2R. Hopefully they will add Greater Rifts with Leaderboards like in D3, otherwise nothing to do after finish Hell.
At least they shall allow /players X in online chars for the moment, to have some challenge as playing solo with an online char.
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Imho, you’ll gain nothing, if you pvp. There is no XP, not loot, not anything, other than your satisfaction (or not) that you killed another player.
But tbh: PK? How’s that possible in D2(r)? At least I remember, that you have to be flagged to pvp. So you can’t just kill another player, if he/she doesn’t agree in the first place.
If you can’t even start a duel, how can you judge, by forum? 
What if I told you that you and your way of thinking is a garbage, will you immediately accept it? 
in the old version pvp was that they kill new hc-players and have fun to make other players sad.
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I started a duel. ^^^you can press P key when in party and see player list, on the left on each player name you can click Hostile and “PvP” is started.
It is garbage because this is not even PvP, is like name say, a hostile approach. There is no “arena” where you enter and PvP, you need to go on a map with the other player and agree with him: to clear the mobs on map, to say go, to no drink potions … … … for me is enough only thinking at that, is practicely impossbile to “PvP” with random players around, let’s say you can with friends because you can agree with them on how to do it, otherwise…
This game has absolutely no end-game! Blizzard shall really do Greater Rifts with leaderboards if have any kind of respect for this game. A very needed action as soon as possble will be to allow /players X on online chars, at least to have a kind of challenge until something else is added.
you can play pvp but there mtucht better games think d2 not bout pvp
IT literaly has same endgame as d3, and poe, only it doesnt hide behind maps, wich are basicly another version of endless baalruns, atleast d2 doesnt hide behind it and stays true 
and the pvp is awesome, go hc and duel someone for all your loot, u never felt so alive
Danutz,
I’ll repeat, the game play is from the year 2000, 21 years ago.
What do you expect?
It could very well be that this game is older than you. It just doesn’t seem to suit you, why do you continue complaining on the forums? You have 126 posts at the moment, 93 of them are complaining about how D2 isnt modern enough for you, the other 33 are you demeaning people that don’t agree with you.
What’s the deal?
Why did you buy D2R?
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A “special” guide for a “special” person, like you:
Step 1. Make a Hardcore character
Step 2. Progress through the game, until you reach level 90
Step 3. Play PvP
Step 4. Die
Step 5. Complain about the gameplay and game mechanics in the forums, to your relatives, to your friends
Step 6. Be salty
Step 7. Uninstall D2R
Step 8. Return to Mario Kart and Fortnite
Step 9. Profit?
You’re welcome!
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Oh my, I remember you promised to quit this game just a couple of days ago. Am I missing something has suddenly changed? Or you are still looking for a black cat in a dark room end-game in D2R? 
I’ll take the courage to predict the author’s behaviour in this way:
Step 7. Uninstall D2R
Step 8. Re-install D2R (because it’s super-hyped and you need to be trendy on your tic-toc account)
Step 9. Rinse & repeat.
No, this is absolutely false. Actually they added Gretear Rifts in D3 because of lack of end-game. In D3, before greater rifst we did Diablo runs… … but was the same extremely boring after a time like Diablo, Baal runs are in D2. Exactly that is he proeblem, when I do a Diablo run in D2 is always the same, same map, almost same mobs, kill Diablo in few seconds, no challenge.
Greater Rifts in D3 bring something new, a challenge. You do not know before what map you will encounter and with what monsters on it, you must be prepared for any worst case scenario. It is not like in Cow level in D2 where you know what mobs are inside. Every Greater Rift is a new challenge. I played lot of really challenging and fun Grifts in party of 4, finishing the rift effectively with 0.133seconds remaining. There are lot of players still playing D3 because of Greater Rifts after years. There is always a reason to play, to get better gear, to get better yourself at the game, because there are leaderboards. You want to see yourself on the leaderbaords and to see your personal records <<< this is end-game. Before this also D3 was empty, players just Frenzy into mobs without knowing that they are very weak actually. Like in D2 now, a lot of players think they are good, they are strong, but what to compare with? Greater rifts in D3 are also a kind of benchmark, you can see that one of your build is actually doing half damage compared to others builds. The challenge is there, I did maximum solo grift 141 and the maximum in game is 150, so still there is challenge to reach 150 solo, a reason to play and become better. In D2? I can smash effectely Chaos Sanctuary and kill DIablo in few seconds, baal the same, so ?
1.2. have you observed server disconnects, server desync… … do you know that you can die because of that? sorry, I am not a kind of BDSM oriented.
3. what PvP? there is no PvP in this game. Actually the PvP in D3 was much much better, there is an arena where you effectively enter and PvP(nobody play it atm since become unbalanced I think over time, D3 is not PvP oriented so devs did not focus on PvP). In D2 you can switch Hostile, that’s all, there is no PvP. That Hostile approach with rules that you need to discuss and agree with the other player is not PvP. The rules of PvP shall be established by the game, not by the players!
D2 pvp is definitely worth it imo, it’s very fun and unique, I’ve played a lot of games over the years but there’s nothing quite like it
BUT if you’re a slow person with bad hand-eye coordination then it’s not for you, and if you can’t deal with there being no official rulesets/leaderboards/rewards (other than those organised by the community) then it’s not for you
a number of public duel games will be open for you to join and play in if you don’t have friends so don’t worry about that (common game names are “duel”, “duels”, “duelz”, and “pk”). occasionally some people in those public games will take a bad mannered approach to pvp and ignore the community generated rulesets, jump people without saying go, nk, talk @#$! etc which is something you may not like (and may easily avoid via private games) but imo is part of the fun
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Played some StreetFighter and MortalKombat, I was medium at them let’s say, is that enough?
Anyway, will be good that a PvP in a RPG to be build/itemization/char oriented and not StreetFighter games oriented.
Danutz,
D2’s end game is left open ended.
That’s the way most us like it.
Yes, you may be level 90 on your main, perhaps 99 is a goal you want to reach. Baal runs and MF runs til you get there in a few months.
Your 99 now, but you’ve accumulated a lot of gear for another class.
Roll a new class and begin anew, levelling & slowly gearing.
Roll another class.
All the chars you want to play are now fully geared and levelled?
PvP in pub games, go buck wild with your overpowered/geared characters and slay the entire room.
You now have 5 mules worth of stashed ears.
You’re bored…
roll HC and try it all over again
or don’t,
get level 70 and realize that baal runs & mfing are seemingly it now. Do nothing constructive or creative in game. Instead, go to the forums to gripe that the game isn’t holding your hand and dangling a carrot in front of you with the other, all in order to keep you in the wheel house of some sort of never ending end game.
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What’s the end game suppose to be Danutz? A forever experience with no end?
It makes no sense.
Make it up yourself and give meaning to what you’re doing. This method applies outside of the digital world as well.
Get a job.
do not comment about end-game if you do not know what an end-game is. what you describe above is possible in D3, POE… or whatever aRPG game. What is possible in POE, D3, even Warhammer Chaosbane, Grimdawn… is not possible in D2.
there is no endgame in diablo 2 and comparing ubers with rifts/g rifts should not be compared to begin with, uber should be compared with ubers in the other game not with a thing that is totally different.
For me you lost all credibility when you said that D3 had a better pvp even if no one plays it just because you have a tiny arena.
Imo adding trillions of damage to your character and 1000 times that amount on health pool for the enemies is not adding difficulty is just making a stats wall. Needing to level up the character to 6000 - 7000 to have a chance on the top levels is just boring and stupid at least for me.
one example of the “difficulty” barbarian ww/rend, hold RMB 90% of the time for ww spam every few seconds stomp to get damage reduction use few rends if ww is not enough and use super sayan mode to boost your toughness and damage. The only thing that you have to worry about is to have enough damage reduction to not get oneshoted on unavoidable attacks.