Resetting stats/skills anytime

Hi guys. Could you please make Akara, from the first act, in every difficulty, able to reset stats/skills everytime we want to? There are so many builds for every class, and I would like to try them out all of them. Thanks.

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Its not nessesary to make the respec free. You need the items for the builds anyway and while you farm you get like 50000 essences and can respec at any time anyway. D2 doesnt work like D3 cause most builds dont make any sense if you dont have very specific and rar items

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It seems a lot of these threads are about getting rid of a lot the things that helped make the game a classic. Not enough drops, healing monsters, losing gold, not enough inventory space (which they did expand for this), and we can only reset our skills once (which wasn’t even available before the original LoD expansion).

I may be talking out of my ā€œdonkeyā€, but I’m willing to bet a lot of these complaints are coming from die hard fans of D3, a game which holds your hand and virtually plays itself. Your skill choices are a joke; they don’t require other skills to work effectively, and they don’t effect how good or bad your character is. Then there is D2, and people want more resets because, unlike D3, your choices actually matter. What’s next, god mode?

Like lemon alluded to, you don’t really have to work at a good build in D3. Whatever you throw together works. What’s the challenge in that, and where is the replay value?

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The funny part about these complains you mention is that in the past 2-3 years there were more people playing the ladder in a 20 years old game (d2 lod) than playing the actual d3 season. So why does a whiny minority wants to make the game worse?

If you want a hardcore/grindy game play D2
If you want everything for free and be bored after 1-2 days play D3

There is no reason to make D2R another D3. If blizzard would do most people would switch back to the original even with the worse graphics

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I have a suggestion: Make infinite respecs available only to characters (not the account) who’ve beaten Baal in Hell AND killed the cowking in all difficulties.

Then you just don’t need to farm the bosses infinite times just to respec. (but you still can for other characters.) But since it isn’t worth playing this character anymore other than trying out other builds, you have that oppourtunity, then.

you have to farm essences to respec so u can respec mate

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Please don’t ask this. The game is easy enough to make it even more easy. Just farm essences and have your infinite respecs.

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Yes, for example as a Barb you land a tremendous Axe and now you need to respec from Swords to Axes and from Double Swing to Concentrate… Millions of examples like this.

You do not necessarily farm, you randomly loot items, which may be good for your character or for a totally different class. You have little say on the matter what drops, unless you make rune words.

This is how D2 has been, you loot a fantastic weapon or armour and make a new character to use it, because you cannot respec one of your old characters. So you join the bot infested Blood Runs - great ā€œpurismā€ right there…

What exactly is ā€œClassicā€ in D2? D2 was dead and gone in a couple of years. Had no updates or patches, instead they developed D3 a decade later, after many years in the making. And D3 was a bigger sales hit than D2 ever was. If D2 was such a classic there would be no D3 or D4. Especially seeing how far D3 departed from D2. (BTW, I do not like D3).

No, people want resets because it makes sense, has nothing to do with D3, or any other game.

If you can farm Hell Baal you do not really require a respec, other than for laughs.

But if you are stuck at level 40, 50, 70 and need a respec to use a better weapon, or for whatever reason, currently you are stuck.

And when you are stuck on your main, you start a new character, and you invariably get rushed because it is a chore you could really do without. And mostly run by bots. And then everyone has already left and gone to play other games.

Inventory / stash space, personal loot and free respecs, are choices not obligations.

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yeah no, the system is good the way it is and does not need tweaking to make it more casual friendly. This is one of the cases where you either adapt to the game or you play something else.

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Aren’t you a bit too dramatic?
Why not see this like ā€œok, I fked up my char at level 40, so I’ll create new one, get rushed to the same spot and level 40 and continue as if nothing happenedā€?

I play Diablo 2 for 20 years now with some years of break… i pay HC only and NEVER used a respec in my life. I had like more then 200 lvl 90+ chars (all HC) of all classes. For me its part of the game to think about what skills i will need later. So the game is harder at the beginning because i use only a few skill- and stat-points.
I was never stuck at anny point because of my stats or skills.

ā€˜Where is the challenge’… Please refer to the post I posted earlier. Some of us have wives, kids and jobs that are much more challenging than all this geeky nonsense. D3 was a nice ā€˜stress ball’ - why do you hate that? Are games just ā€˜second careers’ to you or what’s going on?

Games are just entertainment to me - a bit of escapism. ā€˜Go play D3’ is a redundant argument in these times where it’s easy to create an ā€˜alternate mode’ where people that want to play by D3 gameplay get their game, and people who want this frankly bizarre second job gameplay get theirs.

I code for a living so I know how it works - what I’m asking for is not a huge programming challenge.

There’s something seriously wrong with people who insist on things being only ā€˜their way’ when the alternative way (that clearly many people enjoy, including myself) doesn’t deprive them of their austere gameplay.

This is the sign of a loser. I know this because all losers just want things their way and will not consider an alternative. Real life will always put them in their place, but why not just not be a loser for a change - why not just say ā€˜ok, I like my way but I’m ok with others having their way too’.

It’s just bonkers that people on these forums will not accept an alternative way of playing the game that will affect them in no way.

Sociopathic?

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The ā€œwife and kidsā€ argument can be extended endlessly. Some examples:
Remove immunes, ā€œwhy cant i play with 1 spellā€
Make bosses easier, ā€œhard bosses, cant progressā€
Increase drop rates of everything, ā€œi dont have time to search for lootā€

Where do you stop?

Have you ever played arcades? Do you know what makes them so attractive? Diablo is very similar. And this is why a large portion of D2 community is strictly against changes that will make the game easier. D2 is an arcade game, its old-school. If you dont have time for ā€œgame over, play againā€ style of game, perhaps you really should consider different game.

Or do you complain to Cuphead developers that its too hard? Dark Souls? Mortal Kombat? There are a lot of games that are not that easy, one way or another. Locking the skill tree is one way that D2 is not easy. They already made it much easier for you by providing 3 respecs + infinite respecs on hell. Yet even this is not good enough for you.

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Have you even read what I said?

I said give us 2 gameplay modes (easy to code, I know because I do it for a living).

You get your old school D2. Other people that want something on the D3 side get theirs.

The question is why would you not want people to have something you never have to play or look at?

Why does it need to be ā€˜only’ core D2?

If you know that its ā€œeasy to codeā€ you would know that it effectively would mean 2 different server realms. We already have ā€œclassicā€ and ā€œexpansionā€. You now suggest to have a permutation of 4? Do you realize how that will separate the community that is not that big already?

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Who said it needs to be online?

People like myself that want a ā€˜stress ball’ D2 do not care about online ladders etc. That’s for you lads that want the core D2 experience. I’ll settle for an offline no problem. And only that.

Yes, that’s easy to code.

You can always use mods for offline play in D2R that will tweak the game exactly to your taste.

To me, it looks like you want developers give you a personalized touch of how you personally want the game to play. It wont happen. So why not do it yourself, or look for somebody who things the same way and already did it?

I do not ā€œhateā€ anything written on a forum, I am not 12. Please don’t project. I disagree, because I myself am a dev :slight_smile:

Actually, your last post was the first time I read that you want it in offline play. I think its reasonable, although I still believe that devs’ time is spent better elsewhere (stability issues), and most simple counter stuff like respec # can be modded easily, especially if you are a dev yourself.

I am against messing with the online community, and online gameplay. And the only way to have ā€œdifficultiesā€ like you say in an online game would be to have separate realms, with separate ladders, because that would be the only way to promote fair play.

So no, your suggestion is not as simple as ā€œlets tweak this knob and call it goodā€. It implies much bigger changes to the whole online play.

You got me. I’m a homeless man, sitting in a dank alley with my laptop hooked up to a stolen car battery, pirating a Wifi signal from the fleabag motel across the street. In 45 years I’ve never had a job or a family and I never will, because I’ve dedicated myself to Diablo 2, the challenges of which allow me no time to actually do something with my life. Sad I know, but these are the sacrifices one must make in order to play a game with only one skill reset.

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Well then you know what I suggested does not involve online whatsoever - I’m well aware that is a bigger challenge for a ā€˜second mode’… As you said yourself, it’s ā€˜reasonable’ to have an offline mode though that makes some subtle tweaks - you seem to know very well that this is not a big challenge code-wise… That is all I’m asking for - not a whole new online experience built around it.

Offline D3-type experience is what us with kids, wives and jobs want. We don’t want a full-blown online ladder dedicated to it.

I think we’ve come to some sort of agreement on the topic (unless I’m mistaken…)