Zoo druid realy realy bad/ resistances/mf impossible to reach

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Hello, hc player here, I’m trying fury/zoo druid. I have big troubles stacking resistances and get MF and good clearspeed, (I tried many variations) I just want to delete this char because I’m upset… Can’t stack more than 200MF, low clearing speed, too must investement for resistances (he got absolutly no help for this). In mickey core I can understand but in hardcore you have to stack like 225 all res to counter lower resist souls, if not added by any conviction.

The character is realy bad despite the grief investement, my barbar was way more efficient… The druid need a resistances passive skill as the barb, I’m using 1hand because I need the resist in the shield.

The build is “ok”, I can farm in p8, but compare to my barb or other chars, he feels like a joke.

max block, grief/ss, kira’s guardian, gore rider, mf gloves with res, goldwrap, mana leech res ring/mf ring, +2 druid res mf amulet, anni/torch, lvl of summon boosted: 33 spirit 33 dire 27 grizzly. (the summon can hold very well but clearing speed is realy bad)
I tried many variation, the oak sage seems better in my build for supporting merc/summons
1 werewolf 10 lycan 1 feral rage 18 fury, no ravens (realy useless tho)

I mean, I’m happy I’m at least able to farm p8, but when I’m thinking about the paladin, who can easely achieve 250 all res + resistance aura if needed, the barb with 3 skills investement in natural resistances gives 40 all res and can swap ali baba with hork,
I realy feels like my build is solid but its clown build. I can’t put anymore MF I’m only at ~220 with high end gear 7mf charms gheed, and clearing speed like 1/5 of my barb…

I think I will just remove equipements from it and delete it ^^

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So you want +200% mf, a ton of resists and fast clear speeds on p8? I don’t think druid is weak, i think those other builds are too strong if they can do all that.

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yes barb/sorceress/assassin/paladin at least can achieve this easely

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In this game there is only paladin as a gameplay class, everything else is RP.

Paladin can have a p8 farmspec and an uber killspec in one build with only gearswap, but they gave it another S+ spec. If you want to play anything but paladin or sorc (with jsp’ed infinity) then play PD2.

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Mmmh I disagree, my sorc firewall warmth enchant a5merc frenzy in hc can farm super strongly/fast kills in p8 with 13k dmg and 300mf (with damage reduce), and I’m not talking only about tombs, there’r lot of places where she can shine, I’m super glad with this build and feel like I don’t have anyone’s overplayed build :wink:
edit: on her: no anni/torch no infinity (a5 merc azurewrath/lawbringer treachery arreat’s face) + or - budget

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You should try the hydras, alot more rewarding watching your little dears melt the mobs

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Im playing a druid on HC that uses the summons. I think the point with the summons is to add survivability and tankiness, not to deal a lot of damage. With a ton less points in them you already get a lot of tankiness from them (Im on Act1 hell i can solo no problem and my summons tank quite well with a total of maybe 16points in them at lvl73). So I think if you have enough survivability but you want more damage you should probably reallocate your summons points remove like 30 or 40 points from them maybe and make a more diverse build or stronger wolf with a extra fire claw or something.
Basically if you have a invested werewolf build that means you probably have a lot of extra life so you probably don’t need that many points in the summons at all so you can get some more stuff.
They supposed to die from most fights if you leave them and you recast them, otherwise it would be auto win.
(my own build is like all wolves and bears bunch of crows, cheapest werebear with maul and the stun thing, oak sage like 7 points and then armageddon volcano molten boulder.)

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List your character gear and merc. I want to see your “grief investment “

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The grief is now on the OP barb, druid is so bad because he had no help for resistances, so you need to stack a lot of gear in hardcore in order to survive.
The barb with find item and a simple grief has insane clearspeed.

The build with zoo druid grief was good if merc with harmony and staying at a1/a2
It was realy fun btw :wink: Can do chaos or baal but slowly. But at somepoint I hated the slow clear speed and changes for the OP barbarian

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If you can sink 60 pts into summons, thry better do a lot more than tank. Especially when youre investing jn attack rate and damage synergies for 40 pts.

Give druid summons some other limitation so they cannot be spammed, like necro summons. This way they cant be replaced easily to justify doing more damage and killing tjings on their own.

Druid summons is a trap build allowing you maximum investment whith minimum effectiveness.

Be afraid of too powerful passive summon gameplay in future diablo games, not the ones that are 20 yrs old and already contain summons, ffs!