Blizzard you gave us hydra set last patch . It looked promising in the PTR but now its totally useless . Its playable but cant compete with the other builds. Vyr archon , vyr archo double elements , legacy of dreams hydra both are much stronger. Why give us this set and nerf it to the ground. And also why nerf the WD again after being on top in meta just 1 patch? Wizard had been on top for many patches . I really dont like this so called balancing approach. It only results in nerfs every patch.
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Indeed I concur brother they should not of nerf the supporting items for Hydra as now even the LoD build is lame and the set is still only just a bit better. All they had to do was increase the set damage and even the skill damage for hydra e.g. increase set damage to 30,000 times & or Hydra skill to 20,000 times weapon damage lol just stop the lazy nerf and start applying some creativity please!
Peace & Love!
The set is not a bit better Lod hydra clears higher . Check the leaderboard.
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Well I am just going on my personal experience comparing to how it performed on ptr prior to nerf and how it is now: it feels terrible bud and the set felt smoother in comparison even though it does less dmg it felt tankier too.
But with practise you might overcome but still not as good as prior to complementary synergy based items been subject to a right n improper nerf :::))
Yea on the ptr it was good , now its nerfed into the ground.
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True bud it really sucks atm 
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dont write it off yet. blizz said they will look into it cause they werent happy with the channeling side of the build
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I hope you are right , new barb set same story , weakest barb set at the moment. They give us something new and its not even vialable.
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It’s certainly way behind WW/Rend, but it’s not the weakest Barb set…
Dude i dont play season , and in non season it is the weakest set , i can clear higher with the other sets. Maybe it benefits a little from seasonal buff with kanai’s cube. And due the fact its a new set it was probably populair. I don’t care about that. I know what it can do non season. I can clear higher with earth quake set sysmic slam build , higher with immortal king hammer of the ancients build , and higher with rheakor charge and hammer of the ancients builds. Making the savages set the weakest. The difference isn’t that much , but not what i would expect from a new set.
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As per the H90 Guide that’s linked to from the Top 8 post…
Q: In season 20, I can use multiple weapon, armor, or jewelry items in the cube. Should I change my cubed gear at all?
A: Not really. The cube options available to you in non-season are still the best options. Bastion’s Revered is obviously obligatory. Nothing else will add as much damage as Depth Diggers. The least bad replacement you could make would be to switch CoE for Echoing Fury, but this is still trading an item that gives you more than 50% extra damage in this build for one that adds about 33% damage, and only then at max stacks (takes you from 8F on Frenzy to 6F).
There’s no difference between the build in S20 and Era 2020-1.
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Ok still doesnt change my opinion about the set .
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I agree that this Hydra set some how feel weaker than Tal Channel build. It is fun and easy to play but some how doesn’t work on GR 100+. I have 3 mill sheet dps with all the right gears and skills and I die probably once or twice but take too long compare to my Tal set up. It is slightly better than FB and DMO but Vyr Channtodo seem to be strongest so far for Wiz.
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With lod Hydra I did a gr110 with less than 1k paragons and only one augment. I didn’t struggle with time and the dungeon was not perfect. It doesn’t feel that week to me but then again I am more of casual player and won’t push it to the limits to very hight GRs. On the other thing I completely agree, the nerfs should be handled more delicately.
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Read topic , im not talking about Lod , that build is quite strong , im talking about the new class set typhoons veil for hydra being too weak. And it clearly is too weak.
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Maybe they will tune it up a bit we will say what changes they make next season. However it should be weaker than the lod variation imo cause it is harder to gear for lods. Again I am in total agreement that if they introduce something new they should make it strong to attract players to play it.
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Yea exactly , and if they don’t do anything about this patch. They will adress it most likely in future balance patches
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I still want to see them undo the nerf that they did to LoD/LoN items as now it is too weak and not much stronger then the new set and is not as smooth as new set. They should of just boost the damage output of the new sets passives!!!
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When I saw the patch notes the first time, I couldn’t believe there was no Wiz buff…
I don’t like WD, I don’t like Necro, and I was forced to play them in season 20 since Wiz is kinda pointless now.
Can we please fix that Blizz?
You don’t want to give us Bazooka back? Fair enough.
Then buff Hydra or Archon, or one of the other useless sets we have.
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True they need to de-nerf those hydra items back to 500% +++ is even better and then INCREASE the damage of the new set do nerf synergistic items. Also the wd nerf is too much. It did not need a nerf with no CoE ring due to cube back to normal wd is weak now and squishy! I do not care that people with 10,000 paragon can do a g 137 solo … SO WHAT? What about ME & people like ME that are ancient & decrepit & questioning what new game to find & play because of all the time effort & buttons you have to press repeatedly to feel a little bit of a hero in a game that is suddenly no longer fun because you nerf items opposed to balancing by boosting other class items. Also no wonders set items are all the rage in Diablo 3 as the non-set items damage buff on their own is insubstantial. If not for LoN & LoD they would be even less desirable to have without set synergies to make them useful. So if you REALLY want to see new build diversity create &/or select new items that do not currently synergise with sets, or disable their ability to do so, & boost the buff values substantially.
Peace & Love.