Outstanding.
Feel free to see if you can come up with a good reason why my paragon level has anything what-so-ever to do with Blizzard’s stance on what level of GR solo players should be able to accomplish.
Is your basic position that every single class and build should be able to do a solo GR150 at 10K paragon?
Because most people with low paragon cry about builds being OP . Because they cannot compete , and can never clear a 150 solo.
You’re on the 2020-1 Era WD leaderboard at Rank 69 with a GR142, with a hero that’s got 8.2K paragon, rank 150 gems, 6 primals and 750 INT Caldesann’s Despair on all slots, i.e. it seems you haven’t completed a solo GR150 with your WD either.
This translates to going down 10-15 GRs approximately ( you lose pet bonuses so no mask of jeram and enforcer gem which are 2 big damage multipliers). With the new season coming, these seasonal buffs may compensate for the loss of damage. We 'll see. I am not entirely convinced why wd needed to get dethroned, just like that. There are builds that stayed in the top for 4-5 seasons, untouched. Maybe they should do it gradually. Or maybe they should have buffed him gradually instead of giving unsurpassed damage to Mundunugu builds. For those that were doing 150 with this build, yes it does take skill. This build is very squishy and positioning, spell management and knowledge of mechanics pays lots of dividents.
On the other hand this was one of the most amuzing and fun to play builds if you get it right. So it hurts to see it crushed (if it gets actually crushed). If they are so interested to make this game balanced they should consider other things too like tankiness, speed, difficulty to play, etc. For some reason it is considered balanced to be unkillable as a monk while getting one shotted by everything as a witch doctor or whatever, or do 120 Grs in 3 minutes with rat-mages but is is really breaking the game to have a skilled player do 150GR. No disrespect for any class whatsoever here, but you get my point. You wanna take away his damage for the sake of balance? Fine. Then give him the tankiness of a barb or a monk. So every class and every build is going to play the same exact way. In an rpg game.
Im still going to push , and i dont think i clear 150. I think 148 i can clear with my paragon . 150 isnt that easy. Maybe i can clear it with a dream rift but would take so much fishing. I did do 150 2 player yesterday with monk combination rank 82. Second best monk wd combination. Other WD rank 69 has 2k more paragon. The rest of the teams above play WD with barb or crusader barb. I always play for leaderboards and i enjoy the new set and spirit barrage , and i cant get over it we see a nerf of this big.
Yea those 150ies are really hard solo
Good luck.
This isn’t me being ironic, by the way.
I’m always happy to see people get personal bests.
It’s why we have a big thread over on the US Barb forum full of people posting their clears.
Yep, I hear that. Searching for back-to-back Festering or Battlefields, with good mob types and nicely placed conduit / power pylons can eat a lot of keys.
WD MUST be nerf. Is ridicules overpowered.
I know and I am nowhere near that tier. For numerous reasons. Lack of good hardware-internet, lack of skill, lack of patience, lack of time. My best clears are around 120 on pc and 138 on console. And that happened only when the class I chose to play for that seasons also happened to be really strong and all the stars aligned (perfect pylons, perfect dungeon). I don’t think I can go beyond that. Not in this lifetime. This fishing technique never appealed to me and I don’t have the patience to do that to my self. Lol. I feel that i have good knowledge of the game and have played pretty much every class and every build but that is as far as it goes for me. Nowdays, I usually stop at around 110-120 and just farm 90-100s.
But to stay in topic, I would be perfectly fine of nerfing the damage of the wd if they would allow him to have more survivability. It’s basically what they will do with Necro next season. A good all around solid build with toughness, damage and accessibility. For people that play solo there need to be some strong builds in the game in order to be able to achieve some satisfaction (high rifts, decent farming, paragons). I don’t know if it was overpowered. Maybe it was. But to me flash farming necros that can do GRs in 2-3 mins and achieve in months the same amount of paragons it takes another class years to farm is pretty overpowered too. And I can give many more examples. I am not hating necro by the way. I bought Diablo 3 only when necro came out.
what the hell are you talking about, it’s the only good thing coming with the next patch lol. Actually they should nerf it even more. I don’t see why Wiz got nerfed to the ground yet WD shouldn’t get the same treatment.
Yeah but this season was the first moment of glory for wd which has been traditionally the worst class in D3, while wizard stayed on the top for 10 seasons for trash and his best builds were untouched for so long. I don’t disagree with you, if the damage is rediculous it should be nerfed. Balance damage? Balance toughnes… Right? I only wish they would buff the toughness of the sets so we might try for the first time in 5 years something different than the sacred harvester/lakumba.
I concur mainly! Only reason why I disagree with the nerf is because as “castor” class characters receive 30% more damage by having 30% less toughness it is only RIGHT that they are able to do 1000% more damage because they die so fast that if they do only 20% more damage then melee class then they would be unplayable which is the case for most of these builds. This is why there are few variations because they are so squishy & does not pay off without major support!
Not fair gaming I think I see fines coming!!!
I think the problem with witch doctor is that the bulk of his toughness comes form harvester/lakumba while the other mitigiations are insignificant. This restricts your options in the cube and make itemization very linear and monotonous. And the worst thing that can happen is when your die to a rift guardian and lose all the stacks. It is very hard to recover. Necro has also laughable toughness. On high pushes, there could be 100 enemis on the screen hitting you and each one of these attacks kills you if it connects. By nerfing the damage alone, all you are gonna do now is die more often cause the bosses take longer to die, and are more likely to one shot you. If they nerfed the damage and made it so that soul harvest instantly grants you 10 stacks when you hit a boss i would not have a problem whatsoever.
Absolutely! I think they need to change the mechanics or add new toughness items that do not rely upon stacks to grant toughness. More like instant 100%+++ toughness buff. WD DH & necro need it. Even wiz needs it if you want to substantially change the build base of archon/hydra/tal etc.
By your logic everything was unplayable in the past before things were the way they are now.
so how does it look for wd when the update releases for someone like me who almost have full primal with 1000+ hours played on my wd ?
i was so happy tihs time with wd… cos i have not too much time to play…many times i play as monk and znec…why ? cos i was low para and i just look community chat for people write…^^+1 monk 139…+1 znec 110 etc… i tried new wd set i started to play damage dealer…i like it and i worked hard for good items. i told to me i need sleep but i did +2hours bounties…why? cos blizzard will nerf it somehow…anyway i will not say too much thing…i am quit from diablo…i will not look again +1monk +1 znec…etc…bye
WD was strong and need little nerf, i understand it. But this nerf killed it. Now its not funny and not playable. 4group teams who play gr150 under 4 min without BK need much fishing maps and lucky to have power and spawn boss in the right place to closed it. Casual players never played this gamestyle. “Thank you” blizz for killing the nice game again. Im casual player. I’m tired of building new builds when I haven’t even tried the current ones yet. Its time to find new game. The last one goes out